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J
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There is nothing that says the RI is a new ship in the 2390's... In fact there is a good amount of evidence that suggests to me that the ship is an older one that was either built as a varient of the Nova or a later refit of the Nova spaceframe.

At the same time, there is nothing about the lifepods that changes my opinion on the Akira being a Pre-TNG ship. In fact it supports my opinion that such ships were in the middle of or at the end of a refit process.

And are the GCS and SCS lifepods that different? I haven't checked the SCSLP dimensions, but if they are smaller or the same in overall size as the GCSLP, they could fit in the same "lifepod tube" and you would only have to add a small amount of material around them [mostly in the tube corners as the GCSLP's are roughly cubical]. If you're just adding a little bit of material to the tube, putting in new pods, and replacing the hatch --- don't call it a refit, upgrade is a much much better word.

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Boris: The Soyuz was a special case. TPTB wanted the ship to be a TOS Constitution. However, they didn't have the budget to make one, so they modified the Miranda. This was not what they had intended on doing, so I don't count this in the argument. IMHO, they could have modified the model much better so that the class differences would be more pronounced, such as adding a third nacelle or a secondary hull underneath the saucer. But they didn't.

And as far as the Yellowstone/Danube, the entire episode it was featured in was an alternate reality which ceased to exist at the end of the ep, so that doesn't count either.

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They're obviously supposed to be the same class.

BTW, here's some beauty-views of both versions:
http://neutralzone.future.easyspace.com/Federation/StarFleet/Nova02.htm
http://neutralzone.future.easyspace.com/Federation/StarFleet/NovaVariant02.htm


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Mark Nguyen
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Aren't "beauty views" supposed to be like the pictures I linked to? I thought the ones you link to are schematic views..

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It's nice to see that the Fact Files consider the RI's ventral phaser array to be a tractor beam emitter. [Roll Eyes]

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Indeed. Though, in their defence, if the Nova is like most other Starfleet ships, it should have a tractor emitter somewhere close to that spot.
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quote:
It's nice to see that the Fact Files consider the RI's ventral phaser array to be a tractor beam emitter
Forget this. The FF always fuck up things like this.
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Isn't it impossible to spot tractor beam emitters though? We know there are at least two on the E-D at the bottom of the secondary hull, but we also know that there are a bunch more on the ship.

I think that in TNG's time, tractor beam emitters have become something like TOS' phaser emitters. They come from a different spot each week.

So there is really no point in trying to label them on the hull...

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Roaming phaser banks and tractor beam emmiters. Makes them harder for the enemy to target.

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If TPTB wanted a Constitution Class, why didn't they just pull out the Refit Enterprise instead of the Miranda Class? Sure it wasn't TOS, but it matches the uniform that Kelsey Grammar wore for the episode.

In a totally unrelated subject, I was going through the book on how Voyager was made and I saw that the Ambassador Class model was still in one piece sitting at some model workstation.

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The photo's on page 296 of A Vision of the Future: Star Trek Voyager, by Stephen Edward Poe.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Gilso! Where *do* you get these from?!

http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/shipgallery/shipgallery3/novavariant.jpg

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I'm sure he's glad you answered his question, there.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Gilso! Where *do* you get these from?!

http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/shipgallery/shipgallery3/novavariant.jpg

Mark

Mark I got the the Images from The Fact Files
Also I added in a Nova Class Variant on my own Web site.

http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/siteupdate/siteupdate.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Gilso! Where *do* you get these from?!

http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/shipgallery/shipgallery3/novavariant.jpg

Mark

Mark I got the the Images from The Fact Files
Also I added in a Nova Class Variant on my own Web site.

http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/siteupdate/siteupdate.html

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