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Well, it was suggested that the ship from the screencap from "Conspiracy", the first pic, was a design from the book "Spaceflight chronology" I just bought the book, and I can tell you the design is not there. However, a guy called John Taverni mailed me and mentioned that a ship from the book resembled a section of the mystery ship, this is pic number two. He then put two of those ships together, added a few modifications of his own, not too much as you can see, and we got a ship that resembled the mystery ship from "Conspiracy", which then is pic number three. The ship itself is mentioned in the book as USS Muletrain a Provider-class ship, 225 meters long with a crewcomplement of 65.
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I was just looking at that picture you fellas were discussing there earlier and the first glace I would have said that it read U.S.S. Atlantic, but the Captains name I would almost swear it said Capt Jack Ryan!
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quote:Originally posted by DoughBoy: I was just looking at that picture you fellas were discussing there earlier and the first glace I would have said that it read U.S.S. Atlantic, but the Captains name I would almost swear it said Capt Jack Ryan!
What was the name of the U.S.-submarine in 'Hunt for Red October'? I could swear it was the Dallas, but... - what was the release date of the movie? 1989? Hmm...
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Starship Freak: Thanks for the info! I really do think that the two ships are one & the same (with "doubled-modifications" to the Okudagram; perhaps Okuda was just trying not to plagiarize Sternbach's design, or wanted to make a variant). Anyway, thanks for clearing up the mystery. One question, though: From what century was this ship supposed to be from?
MMoM: The more I think aboout it, the more I think that it's NOT U.S.S. Alaska. The FASA Officer's manual didn't come out until after the first season of TNG, so it'd be impossible for Okuda to pay homage to a ship that hadn't been invented yet.
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Maybe the FASA guys had access to the okudagrams and used this name for one of their designs.
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It's possible, but there was never actually a design made for the Alaska class. There's a fan design at Shipschematics, but that's all it is - a fan design. Perhaps a true FASA design might have been made later, but they lost their license right after the Officer's Manual came out, so that was the end of it.
Side note: If FASA had ever gotten around to making a design, it most likely would have been based on the Enterprise-C wall ornament, which ironically the Ambassador Ent-C was NOT based on.
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^ Remember FASA's design for the Royal Sovereign Class BattleCruiser? I always thought it looked pretty nifty.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: perhaps Okuda was just trying not to plagiarize Sternbach's design, or wanted to make a variant).
Wouldn't be the only time. If you look at the Spaceflight Chronology's version of the DY-500, you'll notice that it's very similar to what Okuda ended up using.
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The ship is from the 22:nd century: USS Muletrain
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See that "Prototype battlecruiser" is the link to USS Muletrain? I based my USS Wasp class on it ( http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sfmuseum/wasp.jpg ). I saw that schematic in a "Federation Technical Survey" wall chart, which had swiped all its designs from the Spaceflight Chronology. I didn't know that when I drew Wasp because I didn't have the book yet, so my Museum article originally included an acknowledgement to the plagarist.
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Since we're on the topic of the Spaceflight Chronology, something that amazed me when I went back and read through my copy last year was that in a couple articles I saw things that look like they were used later in Trek: there's an article talking about a mysterious extra-galactic probe, and the picture/design looks like the basis for the probe in STIV; and there's an article talking about the Romulan War ending with a Federation victory at the Battle of Cheron. Pretty neat to think that this book (published in 1980) was probably used to come up with things later on (in STIV, as mentioned above, and in TNG--"The Defector").
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And what do you think about this display from "The Measure of a Man". First word in the first line looks like "STARSHIP". But then the third row would be the class-names, which doesn't seem to fit. http://home.arcor.de/spike730/questions3.jpg
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The Captain is Drew Duncan/Deckham/whetever. I wish all those entries on the lower image's chart are ships, but I don't think we'll ever get to know what the really are .
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