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I seem to recall that the big dilemma for Worf at the end of the "Paradise Lost" battle was that only a few more shots would likely finish off the Lakota -- killing 500+ Starfleet officers. The Defiant was also in bad shape, but IIRC they only had lost shields -- but still had their armor. Of course, the Lakota stood down shortly after that, and so everything was A-okay.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: And are you sure the Lakota had a fair chance against the Defiant. Someone rattles off a damage report at one point, and the Lakota is faring a lot worse than the Defiant. Take into account that the Lakota thought they were attacking a ship overrun with shapeshifters, and the Defiant was holding back, I'd say that Worf could have pummelled the Lakota if he'd have wanted to.
The Lakota was also holding back and never fired it's quantom torpedoes.
From what the admiral said, if the lakota had used them, the Defiant would have been much worse after the opening volley and most likely destroyed if she took a hit after she lost sheilds.
But the Defiant didn't unleash any quantoms eigther so both were sort of holding back.
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In the long run, both ships had yet to show what they were really capable of doing. But still, the Lakota was able to fight the Defiant whereas a comparably sized ship like the Galor class would have been diabled two seconds into the fight.
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The E-nil crew takes pot shots at the Excelsior every chance they get. I remember them talking about it in ST2, sabatoging it in ST3, and ridiculing it again in ST4.
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Geez, that was only Scotty that expressed his disdain for the Excelsior. Kirk toleraterd the ship. Uhura's statement from ST3 only suggests amazement and you can't tell if she liked her or not. McCoy was said they would probably get a freighter instead of a front line ship in ST4 and in ST6 said the Excelsior was a big ship with no suggestion on whether he liked her or not. Both Spock and Chekov said nothing about the Excelsior at all, good or bad. Other than Scotty, Sulu was the one who kept talking about her. And he was saying grand things about her suggesting that he liked her a lot and was eager to captain her or just serve aboard her as just another officer.
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well, Scotty liked the Enterprise-B, so i don't think that his comments about the Excelsior can be taken as disdain for the whole class. instead, i believe that Scotty thought the Excelsior was junk due to the fact that, in it's prototype stage, it really didn't work very well. the Excelsior, once fitted out and duty ready, was a grand ship.
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I'll bet that a big part of it was originally envy, at having the grand old Constitution Class being pushed out of the limelight. At the same time, the Enterprise was appearing as a busted-up old rustbucket.
And the idea about the hair-brained transwarp drive probably had something to do with it. From what I recall about ST:III, Scotty didn't buy into the Transwarp Drive theory all that much. Especially because he easily sabotaged the ship later on.
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quote:Originally posted by J: The E-nil crew takes pot shots at the Excelsior every chance they get. I remember them talking about it in ST2...
Then you have the most amazing version of ST2 that has ever existed.
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Yes I don't remember anything stated about the Excelsior in ST2. In one of the books, maybe ST2, it was said that Sulu would get a Galaxy class ship. But books are non-canon of course.
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Wow, that must've been some novel! Sulu was going to get a Galaxy Class starship after ST:II?? Lucky him.
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Can someone help me out? I don't have the book, but when in the scene (reuse of the glory shots in STI) Kirk says "I hope I have you for a few more weeks. I don't think these kids can steer." It was said around there.
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Although I do not remember the exact words, the line was more along the lines of "I'm glad we've got an experienced person at the helm."
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"Well, I for one am glad to have you at the helm for three weeks. I don't think these kids can steer."
And absolutly no mention of any promotion or new ship what so ever.
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"Sulu was going to get a Galaxy Class starship after ST:II?? Lucky him."
I wouldn't call him lucky.
Admiral: "Sulu, when we promote you to captain, we're going to give you a top-of-the-line Galaxy-class starship." Sulu: "Erm... But, the Galaxy class won't exist for about seventy years..." Admiral: "Hehehe..."
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