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I think the point's been made many times over that the only way to be fair is to make it available for anyone and everyone who wants to see it. What you're doing appears to be the only sensical response.
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"In lieu of Paul giving us permission to distribute his pic freely, I was going to upload it to Flare for us to view it because I trust the people here enough to think that they wouldn't do what you described."
But, it's the same thing that you were going to do. So, basically, you were going to show it to your friends whom you trust, w/o permission. But you expect them not to show it to their friends whom they trust, w/o permission. You'd be saying "okay, I'm distributing the picture now, but don't any of you guys do the same". That's the point I was trying to make.
"I can't imagine any reasonable person getting ANGRY over the fact that some PEOPLE on the INTERNET saw his PICTURE OF THE BURAN."
You're expecting to find reasonable people on the Internet? People on the Internet who go to Trek conventions, no less? I don't predict a 100% success rate in that endeavor...
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TSN & The_Tom: I hate to admit it...but you're right. It should be all or nothing. I suppose I was a little presumptuous to try to pass the pic off to people here that I figured I could trust. I guess I just got annoyed when people started bugging Red for the pic. I'll talk to Bernd about trying to show the pic on Ex Astris Scientia. Honestly, it's nothing spectacular. You're all going to be disappointed.
However, let's be realistic here. If, at the start of all this, I had said, "Yes, I have a pic of the Buran, but no, I've decided that I'm not going to show it to anyone because it's not my pic and I don't have permission from the owner," I guarantee that a ton of people would start crying like little girls about how I'm being so unfair by not "sharing my information" with the rest of us.
Anyway, it's all said & done. I'll see what I can do on my end. For now, just keep looking at my drawing
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Is there any MAJOR problem with showing this picture? I mean - Mike Okuda didn't want some of his pictures out in the public domain because he was planning on doing a book - but what about this guy? Does he have any connection to Trek? Apart from POSSIBLY taking the picture - physically what 'sway' does he have over the pic? Clearly his non-response after so long means he's probably forgotten about it and is probably withholding that to make himself feel a little bigger than usual??
Just guessing wildly here!
Andrew
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It probably sounds like I'm whining to see it - I'm not. All I'm saying is... Mike Okuda had good reason to retain his photos - he wanted to make a new book (possibly). Who is this guy with the photo - i.e. is he in the same position as Mike in that he needs the photo for financial gain or what-ever?
Not ASKING for the frigging thing just wanting to know the STORY behind the picture. Talk about things getting blown out of proportion. Blown out of Proportion like the Defiant!
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quote:Originally posted by The359: You do realize any joe schmoe can come to this board who isn't even registered, read the thread where you post the picture, and take it, right? Do you trust those nameless persons?
What?!?!? Non-members can see Flare?!? I'm shocked. No, I really am.
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I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
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i don't even like the people that do post here, let alone the lurkers..
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For what it's worth, I only use these pics to drool over when everyone else is out of the house. And they are immensely nice to have as a desktop background.
The false-colour blinding-yellow-background images are just awful, but even they were better than nothing. Well, sort of.
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