quote:Also, there's less "fleshing out" material there for secondary ship types or ship families, although I tried to play with the various Andromedas and Zodiacs and whatnot, making some of them "sister classes" of each other, like was done with Saladin/Hermes etc.
Is there a schematic for the Zodiac or just general info?
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Indeed, there isn't even a confirmation that the Zodiac should exist in the "real" timeline of Trek. Certainly it appears to be a marginal design, rarely seen in the front lines - there are few unnamed on-screen designs that could plausibly match the registry range of the one known Zodiac. OTOH, that Zodiac got a pretty distinguished name, the Yorktown...
Most reference works that speculate on these unseens fail to consider the logical or aesthetic aspects of a ship's supposed registry, stated mission, or obscure things like her name. The ASDB is a happy exception, and soars miles above the various RPG books. And for the record, I far prefer the ASDB Zodiac to my own concept of a single-nacelled "Akira little sister" or "futuristic Larson"...
quote:Originally posted by Timo: And for the record, I far prefer the ASDB Zodiac to my own concept of a single-nacelled "Akira little sister" or "futuristic Larson"...
Which one? There's like six different versions listed at ASDB.
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I think the Zodiac Class exists in the 'real' timeline. Before the mention of a Yorktown in All Good Things, in the episode Frame of a Mind, there is a reference to a Yorktown. This 'real' timeline Yorktown is confirmed in Whispers.
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The Encyclopedia-registry confirms the ships existence in the real timeline. Assuming of course that Q's 2380's altered timeline was started after the present (seventh season) timeline, not earlier (if it was indeed an 'alternate' timeline, which seems obvious because of the E-D's appearance). If the Pasteur is "canon" (6xxxx registry), Yorktown should be canon, too.
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Timo: Bloody hell!!!!! Just had a look at your file; fantastic! I haven't seen much of the old fan stuff like FASA on account of having been very young when it was bought out and rather broke now so thanks!!
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: And for the record, I far prefer the ASDB Zodiac to my own concept of a single-nacelled "Akira little sister" or "futuristic Larson"...
Which one? There's like six different versions listed at ASDB.
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Thanks Timo for the Word documents.
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I HAVE RECEIVED THE BOOK !!
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from a brief overview, some interesting facts:
Ambassador-class comissioned in 2322, crew of 900
The Akira registry list includes all the American Indian names given by Last Unicorn's RPG
Runabout Gander listed as NCC-72311
Excelsiors listed with crew of 770 (!?) but 24th century upgrades decrease to 650
1701-refit listed with crew of 500 (old Mr Scotts guide info tidbit)
USS Trinculo listed as Operation: Return vessel
750 crew on Nebula
USS Nova NX 72330 (?) .. theres also a Nova-class USS Solstice.. har har
USS Titan, Prometheus-class, commanded by WT Riker.. *screams*
crew of 855 on Sovereigns seems sensible, the NCC-9xxxx registries do not.. i prefer Activisions reg for the Sovvie prototype
Data's scoutship was called the Talon, but had no registry.. maybe they missed the movie?
between large and small birds-of-prey, the crew difference is exactly as i surmised, 12 for the scout and 52 for the cruiser (thank god its not 1,000+ like the DS9 TM suggested).. however the 250m / 350m sizes both seem kinda ridiculous.. my own personal interpretation has been 120m for the scout and 160m for the cruiser.. i dont like there being orders of magnitude difference between scaled ships
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: I think it was stated in the STIII SE, clearly, that the 'scout' bird-of-prey was like 110-120m.
Huh? What dialogue is this attributed to? I don't have the SE DVD, but this is the first mention I've heard to actual dialogue giving the length of the BoP for ST:III.
quote:...Titan=Prometheus...damn them to hell for messing with our minds!!
What's the deal? Nobody likes the Prometheus class or what? I think he'd be great in that class of ship.
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