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MinutiaeMan
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I'm watching the rerun of "Interface" on TNN right now. In one of the early scenes on the Bridge, they're talking about rescuing the crew of the Raman, which may still be alive inside the ship -- all seven of them.

Wait, all SEVEN of them? Even on an old Oberth, that's still a pitiful crew complement. But it's what they said! [Eek!]

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Automation is a wonderful thing.

One wonders, though...for smaller vessels that have no need for "high stress situations" like line ships, might they perhaps have a lot of things done by robots? I don't mean androids, I mean robots, like we have them on assembly lines & such. Maybe the computer intelligence is programmed to control them & watch over the funtions. Instead of beeping a noise or flashing a light, the indicator directive goes to a duty bot that handles & "oversees" that function or several of them.

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Jason Abbadon
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That number's total crap: another case of the script refrencing a small ship and the VFX department either being limited in budget or not paying attention or some combonation of both.

The only sanity saving measure is to either disregard the line or assume he meant "the seven survivors of the Raman".

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MinutiaeMan
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Another (probably explainable) problem: Geordi's just said that there were "over 300 people" on the Hera. Now, if they were using the same issues of automation as on the Ramon, then it's acceptable. But even so, a Nebula-class starship with so few crew members would be a contradiction of everything we know (though it isn't much) about those ships. Might the Hera not actually be a Nebula-class after all? It only got that designation from the Encyclopedia, anyway...

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A crew of 300, mostly Vulcans.

As we all know, Vulcans are the epitome of Nietzsche's �bermenschen in Trek, therefore 300 of them are like 800 of us poor piddly pisspoor Earthers.

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The Equinox was a stupid idea - it would have been nice to see the Hera - if it indeed had been transported away by the Caretaker - which it could have... infact seeing as this was a season 7 episode - do you think they were hinting at such a fact - as they peppered season 7 with a lot of Voyager tie-ins.

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Well, on the same note, the Yosemite only had like a crew of 6 or something...so maybe the old mules were going heavily automated, like suggested, in their final days of service (suggesting they were totally replaced by Nova's).

On a footnote, I would have been interested in seeing a Voyager episode with the Hera in place of the Equinox or even another fresh idea altogether...oh well.

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I cannot imagine the thinking that assumes that a story would somehow by improved by a pointless connection to another story.
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Jason Abbadon
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Oh man....they're showing that crappy episode with the Raman right now.

Man does it suck.
Does Geordi really think that completely emotionless vision of his mamma is really her?
The Enterprise crew has encountered a LOT of weird shit, but this is too damn dumb.

Another horrid "non-coporeal lifeform" episode that should have been scrapped.
Towards the last couple of seasons all the bridge crew got at least one really lame episode centering on them.

Except Riker: he got dick.

Jesus fuck: They're playing the "deanna's-dead- long-lost-sister" horseshit now.
Time to watch CNN ot possibly fork out my eyes or something less painful than this episode. [Roll Eyes]

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In the Star Trek: Companion, Larry Nemecek writes for the episode "Interface" that the USS Raman was not intended as an Oberth. There were plans for building a new ship which were cancelled.
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Jason Abbadon
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Thanks for confirmation.
That was my assumption as well.
We've seen it a couple of times when the Oberth model was used.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
I cannot imagine the thinking that assumes that a story would somehow by improved by a pointless connection to another story.

mr know all, be all strikes again....

as if any of it really matters. all i meant is that that would have make for a better 'lets tie in the alpha quadrant'-type episode than a lot of the other crap they tried.

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Jason Abbadon
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While I agree in part with Sol System's thinking that needless tie-ins suck, I do wish they had shown Geordi recovering from the disapearance (and presumed death) of his mother in later episodes....or any follow-up on a lot of the emotionally trying shit the TNG crew went through.

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Sol System
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First of all, huh?

Second of all, how does replacing "Captain Savage" or whatever his name was (Come to think of it, ______ Savage was the name of the actor, wasn't it?) with "Geordi's mom" do anything at all to improve the quality of anything? "Well, I've now got a vendetta...against Geordi's mom!" "You don't know what it's like. We'd be dead without...Geordi's mom!" Pointless. Swapping out one set of new characters for another doesn't change anything. All you'd get would be a shorter episode title.

Lastly, why is it that I'm not allowed to have an opinion on this? I wasn't even sassing!

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