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MinutiaeMan
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quote:
Originally posted by Lee:
We should have a "Design the proto-Sabre before they do" competition or something. 8)

Actually, I do believe that Masao already did that! [Wink] (Although he told me that he hadn't yet seen the Saber when he first sketched out the Kestrel...)
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Originally posted by J:
Warp coils work efficiently when they are paired. There is nothing that dictates they have to be paired.

The Asymmetrical part comes in with the warp field... it's like a triangle. The sides are symmetrical to each other but the front is wider than the back. Thus you can think of it as the back of the warp field squeezing the ship towards the wider front.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about... but the warp field also needs to be symmetrical when you're looking at it from the TOP OF THE SHIP. With asymmetrical warp coils, you can't get the balance of the fields for the whole ship -- or you shouldn't anyway. I still think that something like that should tear the ship apart sooner than it would send them anywhere at Warp 1.7...

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Tangent - it just ocurred to me that the NX bridge chair is the same as the one on the "Neptune Class" surveyors (this from the episode where everyone goes obsessive-compulsive space happy). If someone can dig up a screenshot of Ramirez aboard the Intrepid from "The Expanse", and if he's using the same chair as on the Enterprise bridge...

Also, another Captain Ramirez commanded the ill-fated USS Valiant in the DS9 episode of the same name...

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Lee
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If I could be arsed, at this point I might Photoshop a picture of Sean Connery in Highlander sitting in a captain's chair. . . 8)

I like that Kestrel. Although the side-view doesn't really do it for me.

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If you make that, I'll put Davros in an admiral's uniform and stick him in the center seat on the TOS Enterprise.

Mabye I can make a nice Spok Dalek....

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It's also possible the starboard nacelle wasn't completely dead. You could still see the blue glow at the very rear of it, which implies a coil or two might've remained intact.

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Heh, I can just see the bridge crew getting violently ill, corkscrewing along, at warp 1.7...

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quote:
Originally posted by MrNeutron:
It's also possible the starboard nacelle wasn't completely dead. You could still see the blue glow at the very rear of it, which implies a coil or two might've remained intact.

Correct. From the Closed Caption logs:

The starboard nacelle's a lost cause -- half the coils have been fused.
How long to repair them?
If we were at Jupiter Station, three weeks. Out here... I'd have to rebuild the coil assembly from scratch. Six months, minimum. For now, the best I can give you is warp one-point-seven.
We're not going to get very far at that speed.
Resume our previous heading. Dismissed.
How can we keep going with one warp engine?
There's no other option.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheWoozle:
Heh, I can just see the bridge crew getting violently ill, corkscrewing along, at warp 1.7...

Couldn't be much worse than Kirk's warp two pivot from "Elaan of Troyius", or even the circling at warp ten from "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield".

"Keptin, ve have no seatbelts (vhich vere Russian inventions) but vhat about dose barf-bags vor veak American stomacks?"

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Hey, is it just me, or are the Intrepid and the Flying Turnover both missing impulse engines? I can't seem to find them on the caps I've nabbed from various places.

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Lee
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Some kinda blue glow at the rear of the Iceland's nacelles. . . Or maybe part of the Intrepid's spine?

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quote:
Originally posted by Guardian 2000:
Hey, is it just me, or are the Intrepid and the Flying Turnover both missing impulse engines? I can't seem to find them on the caps I've nabbed from various places.

Look carefully at the (heh heh) Flying Turnover's rear... at the very back of it is some sort of impulse engine looking thing (the "crystal" at the center of the top of it). I don't know if this makes any sense... I'm kind of tired. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
Yes, that's what I'm talking about... but the warp field also needs to be symmetrical when you're looking at it from the TOP OF THE SHIP. With asymmetrical warp coils, you can't get the balance of the fields for the whole ship -- or you shouldn't anyway. I still think that something like that should tear the ship apart sooner than it would send them anywhere at Warp 1.7...

Look at the GCS' warp field schematics. The only only time it's symmetrical is when you're look at the ventral and forward axis but that's because they are the same fold just from a different view.

If you rearrange the warp field of the NX-E so that the "top" is actually the side of the vessel with the good nacelle... then adjust the field coils so that they are balanced closer to the center of the ship [which should throw the warp field off to the other side]. All in all, I think it's doable as long as you keep it slow, faster speeds require more delicate field manipulation.

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From looking at the "Expanse" shots at stguardian.to, it looks like the impulse engines of the ships just weren't lit in this episode.

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Mark Nguyen
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And looking at the "Expanse" shots from my videotape, the Intrepid command chair is NOT the same as on Enterprise. Whatever a Neptune-class surveyor is, Intrepid ain't it.

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