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Writing a film is only the start of the process, allot can happen in the acting, directing and editing of a film that can improve or ruin a good screenplay.
I've actually reconsidered my opinion of Nemesis of late, I've actually come to quite like it, plotholes and pointless, Prime Directive breaking buggy chase aside.
My only substancial complaint is the way the Romulans themseves were almost totally neglected and it would have been nice to sneek Spock into the script...but that's another matter.
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Well on the subject of "it would have been nice": perhaps using Sela, a Romulan who actually hated Picard and the Federation enough, if slightly embellished, to do what Shinzon did.
Like with Khan there would have been a backstory established prior to the movie that we had year to think about prior to the 'sequel' whereas with Shinzon we had about 5 minutes to think about before we saw him take his revenge.
Anyway, I'm not saying Sela would have been a better choice, or that I would have liked it any better or worse, but at least a more logical choice for a villian - unlike the insta-villan we were given.
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Thank you Masaki for posting the Argo ground vehicle. I am more fond of the shuttle myself. It reminds me of the shuttle from ROTJ. If there was going to be a vehicle in Star Trek: Nemesis then it should have ran on anti-gravity and Starfleet should be advanced enough in their technology to use something greater than a ground vehicle with "wheels". That buggy is a throw-back to the 20th century. The shuttle looks more advanced than the buggy.
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It was the fact that they came into contact with a pre-warp indiustrial civilization that was the violation. He's saying that the entire sequence, being just an excuse to have the "kewl" dune buggy chase, was poorly thought out.
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Well on the subject of "it would have been nice": perhaps using Sela, a Romulan who actually hated Picard and the Federation enough, if slightly embellished, to do what Shinzon did.
I'd have made Sela in charge of the Romulan military (and explained that she helped in his rise to power by having the Remans refurbish a Dominion battleship into the Scimitar) and I'd have Tomalok in Dina Meyer's place as the Rommie that saves the Enterprise.
Sels would, of course, have sympathy for Shinzon's plight being a "evil twin" type of character herself.
And we could've seen her die on the bigscreen.
That and lose the dunebuggy scene and it'd be a great movie.
Nothing we shouldnt demand in the SE.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there some Remans in with that group chasing around the buggy? Assuming I'm correct, why would that group be a pre-warp civilization at all?
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Nope...that's something else that really couldve been done better. The primitave screwhead aliens looked too close to the Remans.
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quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there some Remans in with that group chasing around the buggy? Assuming I'm correct, why would that group be a pre-warp civilization at all?
Consider yourself corrected. (No offense. )
And they specifically mentioned the status of the Kolarans in the film, or at least in the script:
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INT. ENTERPRISE BRIDGE
Kolarus III is on the viewscreen, the ion storm raging beyond it.
GEORDI I read six distinct positronic signatures, spread out over a few kilometers on the surface.
PICARD What do we know about the population?
DATA Isolated pockets of humanoids. It appears to be a pre-warp civilization at an early stage of industrial development.
GEORDI Captain, I don't recommend transporting, that ion storm doesn't look very neighborly. It could head this way without much warning .
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You mean the highly ineffective Jeep cannon.
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Mind you, B-4 was already fragmented on the surface before the Enterprise got there. The Kolaran culture was probably already contaminated by it.
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Mind you, Picard and company did not know this when they decided to "take the Argo for a spin." It sounded more like he was doing it for the sake of his own indulgence with little thought for procedure. Not exactly the responsible captain I remember from TNG.
Besides, no one said it was impossible to rationalize, just that it was poorly written.
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