posted March 04, 2004 09:14 AM
Daniels is from the 31st Century. This has been stated explicitly.
Future Guy is presumably from the 28th Century. Although I don't think this has been stated explicitly, Daniels stated in "Shockwave, Part II" that Future Guy's sort of temporal communication is from 300 years in his past.
Future Gal is presumably from the 26th Century, although she could theoretically be from any time after that.
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posted March 04, 2004 09:35 AM
Y'know, if they continue to build on all these themes and convoluted interpersonal relationships, this show could get really interesting. Right, that's it! It's sure to be cancelled come the end of the season!
posted March 04, 2004 11:35 AM
A Vor'Cha is there too.
(Y'know, this Temporal Cold War is really screwing up my directory structure concept on the site . . . Enterprise pics fall under the "preTOS" directory, which is quite the misnomer in some cases.)
And, based on the HD version, I have a bad feeling the little ship right before the Dauntless is the CGI of the Scorpion flyer. Fortunately, the vessel is blurry enough to allow for that to be untrue.
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posted March 04, 2004 12:56 PM
I think that was the Inscetoid shuttle again.
Same designer (obviously a pointy eaves thing).
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People's Exhibit #2 . . . images of the starship in question.
Note that whereas there is a three-terraced spine on the A-type, there is no third (or "middle") terrace on the ship at Procyon. The B-type has just two spinal terraces.
Note that whereas there are two very visible fins on the A-type, such fins are not visible on the ship at Procyon. The fins are much reduced on the B-type, and would not be visible in the shots in question.
I therefore conclude that the B-type Nova is on hand at Procyon.
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posted March 04, 2004 09:46 PM
Nobody seemed to have noticed the unusually tall deck-height on the Ent-J!!
At least in comparison to all the other Fed-Ships we are used to, the deck height is enormous.
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posted March 05, 2004 12:11 AM
Does anyone else think that the Enterprise-J's corridor has a lot of Cardassian elements to it?
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posted March 05, 2004 12:30 AM
Let's guess the Federation Members in 2400's...
Klingon Cardassian Xindi Federation members of 2376
Any more guesses?
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posted March 05, 2004 12:31 AM
Yeah, it does look rather DS9-ey. But hey - The E-D corridors look nothing like the Pre-E corridors. Cycles of design are known to happen. Look at cars today versus 1980s versus 1950s versus 1920s.
As for Daniels, it's the same outfit he was wearing in the 31st Century, further reinforcing the notion that Procyon 5 was a temporal battle. When he showed up on Enterprise, he was always wearing the corresponding uniform. If he was wearing his 31st century duds in the 26th, either he knew the E-J crew would know and didn't care, or he and Archer were cloaked somehow or possibly ensured that they wouldn't be discovered.
EDIT: Which is to say if Daniels and Archer were even there. Daniels probably didn't want Archer to interact with anyone, so why even bother? He could've easily whipped up Procyon 5 on a holodeck somewhen - which immediatelly casts Daniels' credibility into doubt. OTOH, he's been known to yoink Archer into "safe" time periods before just to talk safely.
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