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Wait, so they are redoing some ship scenes in CGI? So why the hell is Tobias Richter making Excelsiors and Oberths when he could be making new ships?
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But they've also replaced a shot of the Enterprise at warp, which formerly used the 4-footer, and the shot of the energy transfer in Encounter at Farpoint.
I'm very curious what criteria dictate whether a shot needs to be replaced. The model shots that are from the original film look just fine, so it's curious that a few have been remade.
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But the beam's not coming from the captain's yacht; it's coming from in front of the yacht. And now it's coming from the phaser strip?! WTF?
And the Enterprise in that shot looks...wrong somehow (compared to the original model).
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: But the beam's not coming from the captain's yacht; it's coming from in front of the yacht. And now it's coming from the phaser strip?! WTF?
That would be because Picard ordered Yar to send the creature "energy" via the phasers. (Not a weapons shot.) So the original VFX were wrong anyway.
If they'd done it later, they would've used the ever-configurable main deflector instead. But I guess they hadn't thought of that gimmick yet.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: But the beam's not coming from the captain's yacht; it's coming from in front of the yacht. And now it's coming from the phaser strip?! WTF?
And the Enterprise in that shot looks...wrong somehow (compared to the original model).
I think what is supposed to be sensor array around the yacht is really dark, almost as dark as the main phaser arrays.
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I think some of the weirdness in that comparison is down to it being a gif file, which are often full of horrible artifacts. If you look at the bussard collectors when it switches to the original frame you'll see that there's a lot of dithering around those. It's just a lot more pronounced in the blu-ray shot because there's so much more detail to get screwed up.
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All the new effects are actually done in .GIF format- Paramount cheaped out a bit more than usual with this release- saves space on the disk for more ads and commercials you can fast forward through...
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I hope those CG shots aren't real. I mean, they could've at least made an effort to match the originals.
Especially given what a rare shot of the ship that is, I want it in its original form, not some blackened Cajun edition with overdone shadows and nonsensical lighting anyway.
Sure, in the energy beam shot the blue of the navigational deflector probably overrode everything else and they couldn't clean it up, but just frickin' leave it that way. It's not like you're gonna have gorgeous HD quality sets and whatnot all the time.
Looks like the Enterprise comming out of warp. In some other thread I have read that this was done with CGI as well. But I can be mistaken...
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The bussards look square in that shot- Is there some rundown of the new stuff on a blog somewhere? Drexler's maybe?
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Yeah that sensor strip in the beam/energy transfer is far too dark. However some of these pics of the Enterprise do look like physical models! Have we finally arrived at the point where we can't tell the difference!?! Finally people realise that lighting is a big part of the realistic effect.
I too wish they would have some new ship designs. Ones done by Probert and Sternbach though.
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