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I don't care much for the size of the BoP in this scene since we don't know the distance anyhow, but I would have loved to see a more dynamic shot, with movement both from the Enterprise and the BOP in different velocities. Although the picutre quality is great, it looks so 2D...
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Maybe the crew evacuates to rooms in the neck during dangerous situations- all the lights are on there!
Or maybe back then, a three-shift-rotation referred to entire sections of the ship being off-duty at the same time...
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I have a question, which might pertain to why the shot with the Enterprise and the BoP was redone: Would any stock footage from the films have to be reshot, since that stock is now the property of Paramount and not CBS? Reused footage I can think of off the top of my head are Spacedock, Regula One, K'T'ingas from TMP, and certain BoP shots.
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On the face of it, I'd doubt it, since CBS has the rights to distribute TNG on DVD. That would presumably include any footage from the films used for the series ... right?
I did buy the sampler DVD. I was blown away by the quality and clarity of, well, everything. I think I'll be picking these seasons up when they're released.
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Weren't the TNG DVDs produced before the big split between Paramount and CBS though?
And where the hell have you been all this time, dude?
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I suspect that the borrowed movie footage as originally presented in the TNG master tapes are property of CBS, but I suspect that Paramount would retain ownership of the raw, pre-composite footage. So yeah, that could be why some shots are being redone from scratch.
That, plus the possibility that some raw footage simply doesn't exist anymore, or is too badly damaged to be usable.
(And it was not flaged as upscaled PAL content in the menu of the blu ray disc)
But if the problem with the property of Paramount is true, then I'm afraid they have to redo the mushroom station approach also.
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"I suspect that the borrowed movie footage as originally presented in the TNG master tapes are property of CBS, but I suspect that Paramount would retain ownership of the raw, pre-composite footage."
I was going to say something similar to this yesterday, but then it occurred to me that, if the footage is from the movies, it should already be on film, so it shouldn't even need to be re-composed, right?
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I shouldn't think so. What the TV show probably had was a high grade video transfer taken from the film stock. Paramount aren't likely to just give away the film prints and there'd be no point in the TV show going to the expense of making cinema grade copies, especially when borrowing footage in the first place is meant to be a money saving exercise.
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I had a discussion about this over at the (gasp!) TrekBBS, and I concluded that while it is the same model shots of the Enterprise-D and the Grissom model, the 53911 registry is in fact new, digitally replacing the Grissom's old registry that was still on the model when it was originally filmed as the Tsiolkovsky.
The use of the original footage of the starbase also answers my question about if they were allowed to use movie stock footage in the remastering process.
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I did a very quick and simple comparision: if you enlarge the SD Tsiolkowsky to the same size of the HD version and put one over the other, you can see that the registry number of the SD version is shorter then the one on the HD version, so you could be right!
In the (SD) scene where the ship is pushed into the stellar fragment (at the end of the episode) you can definitly see that the ship has a registry with only three digits.
Wow, this is great news, they actually care!
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Yeah, I noticed the grain, too, but I don't know why. The screenshots from Farpoint Station are crystal clear.
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