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So, I know a lot of you would want the Titan to be an established class -- like a Steamrunner, Galaxy, etc etc.... but no! Riker left the Enterprise for something special. The new USS Titan NX-80291 prototype!
Im obviously not done, but im planning on giving it some good detail and a side and front view.
What do you think the titan would look like? post your ideas or designs here!
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Well, I guess I, for one, don't think it will be a monster ship like that. Yes... the name would tend to imply that it's a large vessel, comparitivly, but I don't think Starfleet has anything yet that dwarfs the Sovereign and Galaxy classes.
I'm all for the Titan being something we haven't seen yet, but I'm guessing it's something more along the lines of an Intrepid. The Titan's first assignment under Riker was to go to Romulus and help establish diplomatic ties, right? Maybe it's the fact that the Bellerophon went to Romulus... but I just see Riker in an Intrepid style ship. New and sleek... but not an uberShip or anything.
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Number one, EW.
Number two, you don't give newly-commissioned prototypes to newly-frocked command officers.
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Actually, I think the design has potential. But yeah, too big.
Based purely on the necessities of the plot, I highly doubt that the Titan would be larger than a Sovereign class ship if it were new. It wouldn't do to have the main ship eclipsed by a secondary craft - this is why in TNG, and more importantly VOY and ENT the guest ships are ALWAYS smaller than the "hero" vessel. The only time the opposite is true is if the plot specifically demands it - case in point, the "new hotness" Excelsior replacing the "old & busted" Constitution class. Given that Berman tends to avoid this notion in his work, it ain't gonna happen.
I envision a new ship roughly the same volume of the E-E, but arranged differently to make it look smaller and unmistakeably not Picard's ship. If Riker would get a Galaxy, that would be a different story, as it is widely accepted that the Sovereign is the "new hotness"... But that's for the other thread.
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I agree with Aban. Tge design itself is... unusual... unusual enough to actually work , but it's way too big. There are practical limitations, for one thing: Where is this thing going to be build? It would require a even bigger drydock than that seen in Nemesis. Starfleet is not about making every new ship bigger than before...
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Can't say I dig this one: it's a bit too organic looking for my tastes and the nacelles look too Soverign-ish.
Mabye think along the design shapes of previous classes and update it from there.
I would'nt mind a updae of an older design....just not a Akira-Soverign mutt like so many out there. (not that yours is, mind you)
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: It wouldn't do to have the main ship eclipsed by a secondary craft - this is why in TNG, and more importantly VOY and ENT the guest ships are ALWAYS smaller than the "hero" vessel.
I think the idea is that the Titan would now *be* the new main/hero vessel.
The days of Picard and the Enterprise are over. It's time for a cast made up of Riker, Troi, a handful of characters from DS9 and VGR, and some new & young faces to take center stage...
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: It wouldn't do to have the main ship eclipsed by a secondary craft - this is why in TNG, and more importantly VOY and ENT the guest ships are ALWAYS smaller than the "hero" vessel.
I think the idea is that the Titan would now *be* the new main/hero vessel.
The days of Picard and the Enterprise are over. It's time for a cast made up of Riker, Troi, a handful of characters from DS9 and VGR, and some new & young faces to take center stage...
-MMoM
Well, I wasnt going to explain my reasoning, but yes. This is exactly what I was thinking.
As for Organicly-shapped ships... why not? We know thats where the future is heading, why not make one of the last designs of the 24th century more organic shapped. Eventually ships end up looking like the Wells-Class, you know.
Also, the nacelles are meant to be Sovy-like.
Its really takeing elements from the Akira, Prometheus, Sovereign, Nebula, and Steamrunner. All of which are my favorite TNG-era designs.
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My expectations of the Titan, are more of a big brother to the Defiant. More functional then graceful. More of a combat/patrol vessel, then a long range explorer. The Soverign class represents the Federation at it's pinnacle, while the proposed future (the Titan's setting, is of a collapsing Federation.
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quote:(the Titan's setting, is of a collapsing Federation. [/QB]
That was one of those terrible rumors floating arounf during Nemesis' shooting and has zero basis in fact. It's also one of the worst ideas ever. Ever.
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I guess I am in the minority here, but I very much like the design. Deanna was going to serve on the Titan as ships' counsellor, so I am thinking that the ship is a large explorer class of some kind. Something a lot bigger than an Intrepid-class.
My inclination has always been a refitted Nebula-class, but seeing a new explorer design works for me as well. It would be sad if Riker left the cuting edge Sovereign-class Enterprise, to command an older explorer class of his own.
Regarding Riker's ability to command a new class of starship, I would say that he is about ten years overdue for a captaincy and I don't see how this ship would present him with new challenges he couldn't handle or situations he hadn't faced already on his previous ships.
He isn't Captain John Harriman for goodness sake, who should have been relieved immediately after returning to spacedock. How such an incompetent officer could become a captain of starship is beyond me. I would expect such incompetence from an ensign who was forced into the command chair by circumstance, not an officer who was promoted through the ranks.
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A refitted Nebula would be great: I have made a few Nebula variants and I really love that darn ship! Would you rather see something like the Southerland or the version with all the Galaxy windows? I prefer more windows than the Southerland but far less that the Galaxy's saucer.
...and it's a good thing to beef up the impulse engines on those ships too!
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I still think an Ambassador or New Orleans or Galaxy or their equivalent would be fitting for him. Nebula's remind me of hatchbacks...like the oversized Chevettes of Starfleet.
Even if they were to go for a totally new design, say, in the vein of a Nova, it needs to be at least the size of an Ambassador.
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