The used Ambassador looks a lot more unique without looking too much like one ship (Galaxy) or another (Excelsior). I see waaaaaaaay too much Galaxy in that design.
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Hey, how about the *original* Enterprise-C, that was hanging on the wall of the E-D conference room for four years? Has anyone ever tried extrapolating that design? The Ambassador we eventually got looks nothing like it, and for that matter I don't think Probert's design looks much like it either.
quote:(We haven't encountered ship's counsellors on any ship other than the Galaxy and Sovereign-class Enterprise. We never found out what class of starship Ezri Dax's U.S.S. Destiny was. Does anybody know what class of ship the Destiny was?)
That's not true. There was a ship's counselor aboard the USS Brittan (sp?). It seems to me that a ship's psychologist is a pretty routine posting in the 24th Century Starfleet, even if the ship's counselor isn't a member of the bridge staff.
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Was Andrus Hagan the cousellor of the Brattain? I thought he was a scientific advisor. He was from Betazed, though.
Janeway indicated that they didn't have a counsellor on board because of the nature of their original mission, not the size of the ship.
I'm guessing that any ship that is due to be out in space for any length of time will have a counsellor aboard. Voyager was only scheduled to be gone a short time before their little side-jaunt.
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Yeah, Hagen was the "science advisor". In a quick tangent, the Brattain, does anyone have a theory on whether it destroyed in the end of that episode o rnot? At the end of that episode it was never indicated if the Enterprise towed it to a starbase or if it was just left there. I realize we saw the explosion that ruptured the rift to allow the Enterprise/UAI to escape, and neither of those ships were destroyed, so I cannot see any reason why the Brattain wasn't destroyed either, but nonetheless there was no indication of whether or not a salvage was made...or is it just MIA?
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It could have been sent on autopilot to randevous with a support ship like the Hood and staken to starbase from there: no use tying up the flagship. It's not like the Brittain was a cutting edge ship that any of the major powers would bother to steal.
...and just for torture's sake, they should have sent Mr. Hagan agong as the sole crewman for the trip back. Kinda a starfleet flying dutchman.
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Hey, how about the *original* Enterprise-C, that was hanging on the wall of the E-D conference room for four years? Has anyone ever tried extrapolating that design? The Ambassador we eventually got looks nothing like it, and for that matter I don't think Probert's design looks much like it either.
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That's a good idea! Anybody got a pic of that?
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I can see that representing the Probert design. ...at least as much as the Excelsior representing Enterprise B, anyway.
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Kinda looks like the ASDB Korlov design to me.
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it seems that most large-crew situations have conselors assigned.. DS9 had an assigned counselor.. and Ezri was said to be an 'assistant counselor' presumably serving under another higher ranked counselor..
as a large military entity, Starfleet must have a dedicated corps of mental health professionals to look after the good of the crews, even as early as "Where No Man Has Gone Before" there was a psychologist assigned to the Enterprise, long before the creation of the counselor position
we can probably assume that ships with very small crews or short mission profiles dont have dedicated counselors along, but probably have surgeons that are chosen for dual talents in psychological and physiological medicine.
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True - Janeway specifically states that they don't have a counsellor because she figured her short-duration mission into the Badlands wouldn't need one. It follows that there is probably a corps of Starfleet counsellors who get assigned as needed to either ships with families aboard, or those without that would be on longer-range missions.
Of course, this is not to say that ships without counsellors are deficient. There are probably plenty of officers or crew out there with equivalents to bachelors degrees in psychology; heck, we've got plenty right now.
quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: it seems that most large-crew situations have conselors assigned.. DS9 had an assigned counselor.. and Ezri was said to be an 'assistant counselor' presumably serving under another higher ranked counselor..
Ezri was such on the Destiny, assistant that is; she got promoted to the station counselor of DS9, before that, there seemed to be none on the station.
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Ref Counselor Telnorri in "Whispers."
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