Shik
Starship database: completed; History of Starfleet: done; website: probably never
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I was worried for a moment that some dink had beaten me at my project. But it's not so inclusive.
More importantly, though, I see on the covers alone that Masao's Belleau Wood & Hyperion classes are on there...& isn't that one of Bernd's designs at the top on the back? I see his Springfield reconstruction peeking out at hthe bottom back there. And...was the Lynx time ship one of Aridas' creations or no?
I dunno, guys...anyone got $8.07 to DL the thing & see? I sure don't.
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Registered: Jun 2000
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Well if this guy didn't get permission to use those ship designs, he could get in trouble especially since he's turning up a profit.
Registered: Feb 2005
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Just selling something about Star Trek without being authorised by Paramount is copyright infringment. Not so sure about fan designs, it's not as though the original artists would have been allowed to money from them either. Presumably he'd be infringing only on Paramount's rights, rather than Masao's or Bernds?
I'm not an expert on law, by any means, all I know is, it pisses me off when people take your work and stick their name on it.
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Who the hell is this guy?
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WizArtist II
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The problem I see is if he nabbed these off of a posted website as public domain. It really gets dicey when someone filches your stuff off of some website. There is an "implied copyright" IIRC, but you would have to still have the original files that you used to create them to prove ownership. That's one of the reasons I started doing lower resolution on my site. It just sucks that it lessens the quality of the image for those who would just admire your work. I had a couple pen & ink's show up in a local publication without acknowledgement or remuneration. It just wasn't worth the effort to go after them as it was being done as a charitable fundraiser. I would have allowed them to use them for free (with acknowledgement) if they would've simply asked.
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Putting stuff on the Web does not automatically place it in the public domain.
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Ahh...... public domain and the internet, one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of copyright law is the fallacious assumption that because something is posted on the internet it is somehow placed within the public domain and therefore free for all to use (with or without acknowledgements to the original author) as they please. Now the basic thing they taught me was that, pursuant to the Berne convention which automatically establishes copyrights on almost all creations right from their inception onwards (whether they're tagged as copyrighted or not is actually irrelevant according to the convention, although it might be relevant in several national jurisdictions around the world)that it's in fact illegal to download or copy any data from the internet unless one of the following exceptions applies: a) the work is created by the government (sometimes government funded organizations fall under this category as well, though not always), b) the copyright has expired, c) the creator or copyright holder has abandoned the copyright, d) the owner expressly releases the work into the public domain or e) the use is covered by acceptable exceptions.
Not surprisingly most legal problems arise from that last category since it tends to vary not only between jurisdictions but often also between cases in the same jurisdictions what exactly qualifies as an �acceptable� exception.
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Da_bang80
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Just email this guy and tell him he stole someones work, threaten him with legal action, and he'll most likely remove this thing than risk thousands of dollars in lawsuits. I've seen this before.
I was looking for some models for the game "Flatout" (Shitty game by the way) and I came accross a forum where everyone was bitching about this guy who stole a bunch of peoples car models and skins and compiled them into a big mod and charged $4 per download. Needless to say he got the reaming of his life and he took down his file rather than risk getting sued.
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Oh yeah it happens all the time with mods in Starfleet Command and Bridge Commander. I couldn't tell you how many times people have used ships in a mod even though they did not ask the author's permission. One guy did it even on two seperate occasion, even when he was caught the first time!
Registered: Feb 2005
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"Compiled, illustrated and ripped off by John Bullerwell"
Sad thing is, I'd love to see all those designs in one place- as a free download and with credit given to the real designers, not this fuckwad.
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Registered: Aug 2002
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You could talk to one of LuLu's live help admins.....maybe ask them if he has permission to use other peoples designs? Maybe even send a link to one of the ships in question on the SFM site? Because if he's passing it off as his work and lying to the publisher then they won't be happy....
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Now, now....it's possible that all those designs are his and that everyone else (inclusing Paramount) has been ripping him off for 30 plus years...
That Probert guy's always been a little shifty, if you ask me.
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