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Publishers don't like liars, because they would be on the hook as well. Keep an eye out that he doesn't try this again though!
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Even if he attributes the sources, if he doesn't have PERMISSION from those sources he is breaking the law. Willing to bet the publisher wants the money back from him.
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Relax, it was just a joke, I was being sarcastic. In this particular case for once the law did what it was intended to do in the first place if you only saw all the inane cases that I've seen you'd find this one funny too precisely because it is an exception.
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I reviewed my email and found that John Bullerwell actually contacted me back in January. I gave him permission to include data from my site. He told me he redrew the ship images.
So, sorry to John for forgetting I had given him permission.
I've sent him an email inviting him here.
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Maybe we've got the guy all wrong and he's gotten permission from all sources (obviously not Paramount). I'd be intrested to see if he's credited the designers though- the cover seems to say "no".
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The sample page I was given was clearly redrawn as monchrome line art; my stuff is always shaded and in color.
Did he contact any of the other designers? How about Bernd?
Anyway, I get lots of requests to use my stuff, so I often forget who I've given permission to, then accuse someone of theft. Then they remind me that I gave them permission. Damn!
By the way, Lulu.com, the ePublisher that this book comes from, has (or at least "had" in January when I checked) a whole section called "Star Trek" that includes fan fiction. I'm sure it's violating all sorts of copyright laws.
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quote:Originally posted by Masao: The sample page I was given was clearly redrawn as monchrome line art; my stuff is always shaded and in color.
Did he contact any of the other designers? How about Bernd?
Anyway, I get lots of requests to use my stuff, so I often forget who I've given permission to, then accuse someone of theft. Then they remind me that I gave them permission. Damn!
Same here, though lately I've gotten in the habbit of ignoring requests. Not being mean, but it's been about 2 years since I've even done any trek work & the constant parade of RPG groups requesting use of my work got a bit annoying. As far as this guy goes, I'm not sure, he may have asked but I generally don't permitt people to use my stuff to make a profit. Just the other day I turned down a bloke who wanted to use some of my logos to print on mugs, t-shirts & the like. Though I have made a few exceptions in the past.
First of all, I want to thank Masao for gettting ahold of me about this.
And apologize even before I start.
The book in question was never intended to make me a profit. It was simply a private way for me to make myself a book solely for my own use, because my Lexmark-printed amateur copy looked, quite frankly, crappy. LuLu.com was featured on an episode of Call For Help, a Canadian tech show on how to print your own books easily and cheaply. So I decided 'what the heck', lets do that. Before printing the thing off, I emailed Masao and Bernd asking them if it was permissible to put their designs in it since I had used so damn many of their excellent designs. Both responded positively. I did indeed retrace most of the vessels in Illustrator, as Reverend correctly surmised. I wanted a nice, clean look to it, since I had originally intended to print off a copy with my own crappy printer. This is an example of the art, using Masao's own Moskva-class.
When I put the whole project up on Lulu to make the book, I wanted my copy to look as good as I was capable of making it.
Now comes the part where I made a grevious mistake for which I am sorry, and intend to rectify as best I can...
In the options, I made it purchasable for sale if someone wanted it. In my mistaken minds-eye, I guess I thought no one would want a huge list of numbers and a few pictures, except for a Trek-nerd with a hard-on for lists. (Like myself.) And thus, my personal copy would be the only sale...Copyright laws and such never even entered into my foggy mind for some reason...hell, I put Star Trek in it's title...After reading this thread and going to Lulu to remove the damned thing from the site, I found the actual profit I 'made' in total is apperantly 8 dollars and some change American. The project had already been removed from Lulu for-sale listing (presumably someone reported it, rightfully so). I have completely removed the project from Lulu's server. I will gladly refund anyone who bought the book (3 other people besides myself, it seems). Identity Crisis, please contact me via private message or email me at [email protected], and I'll PayPal you a refund immediately.
I really have no excuse for my stupidity, I apologize. I'm a dumbass. Continue calling me names,please, I deserve it.
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Wee Bairns, since I'm the one that found it, Iet me say this: I did not post the link to bring undue wrath upon you. I found it, saw it, & went "Huh...I know those ships!" & posted it so that the people whose intellectiual property were aware. Had they gone "Oh yeah, that's So-&-so's stuff, & I rememebr him asking" then no harm. But of course if NOT...well.
I don't think anyone thinks any less of you (especially given your penitent comments) & I for one don't hold it against you. I see it simple as a case of "looking out for our own." In this case, another one of our own got slightly. My apologies for any problems you might've had.
Also, I hope you've learned from your experience with internet vanity presses. Tecthy things, they are.
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And thus, my personal copy would be the only sale...Copyright laws and such never even entered into my foggy mind for some reason...hell, I put Star Trek in it's title...After reading this thread and going to Lulu to remove the damned thing from the site, I found the actual profit I 'made' in total is apperantly 8 dollars and some change American. The project had already been removed from Lulu for-sale listing (presumably someone reported it, rightfully so). I have completely removed the project from Lulu's server.
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