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Jason Abbadon
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Okay, I've been watching STargare Atlantis and trying to figure the whole "Wraith become a threat to the Aincents" thing...

The idea is that the Aincents let humans get consumed by the Eratis Bugs untill they developed into Wraith.
This sure dont make a lot of sense to me- particularly the questions of where the Wraith got their technology from and why it has not progressed any in ten thousand flippin' years.
(possibly it has some but not exernally)

Anyone got a viable idea how the Wraith came to prominence? is there possibly some assimilation of technology/memeories along with the feeding process?
We know that Wraith written language is an offshoot of Aincent....buy why is it?

Mind you, I've only seen up to middle of season three...

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Are the Wraith even on Atlantis anymore?

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Jason Abbadon
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I think MIchael was towards the end of season 3 (not that I've seen it yet).

As bad guys, I really dig the Wraith- they need a big win over the humans to become a real menace again though.
I just re-watched The Seige (all three parts) again and really like think of that as a great episode. Far more dramatic (in build up too) than anything SG1 has offered in years.

The Atlantis gang just got really powerful really quick and then the (lame ass) Replicators were (re) introduced as villans.

They can still bring in whatever menace made the nano-virus from season one (or introduce some new menaces, of course).

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MinutiaeMan
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A long while back, there was an episode that seemed to imply that the Wraith did not exist when the Ancients colonized/seeded the Pegasus galaxy. There was also a line (maybe the same episode, I forget) that said that the whole war between the Wraith and the Ancients took place in barely 100 years. Finally, there was a very strong implied connection between the Wraith and the Iratus bug.

My guess is that there was some sort of fusion of the Iratus bug with the Genome of the Ancient, thus basically creating a "human" insect. This could have happened naturally, by accident (an Ancient wandering into one of those nests accidentally, for example). But knowing the Ancients and their track record, my money's on the Wraith being the direct result of a bioengineering experiment.

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Daniel Butler
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I agree. There was a lot of talk about the Wraith being the "Ancients' fault" so they ought to do something about it. Which reminds me, this whole don't-interfere thing is one thing; but not saving people who are YOUR descendants from a menace YOU created with YOUR high technology is just...almost as bad as the Ori.
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AndrewR
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:

They can still bring in whatever menace made the nano-virus from season one (or introduce some new menaces, of course).

That was the Assurans! The replicator ancients.

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Daniel Butler
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OH, that reminds me, does anyone else find it weird that the Ancients made replicators that went humanform; and so did that robot from the Milky Way; and they *both* are vulnerable to the *same* weapon because they work the *same* way?
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Mark Nguyen
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Which robot from the Milky Way? There have been a few. And if you're talking about the Milky Way replicators, well, they WERE based on the same technology. In this case, the only real difference is that they didn't form blocks that can be shot apart in really cool CGI battles.

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Daniel Butler
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Now hang on then, I must be confused. I thought the robot (I can't remember her name, the black girl who looked 20ish but had emotions like a child, they found her on an abandoned planet) *invented* the Milky Way replicators. And if that's the case how are they based on the same tech?
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That would be Reese. And I think the postulation is that her father was an Ancient.

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Mark Nguyen
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Yes.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_(Stargate)

The hypothesis is that the Replicator tehnology was first developed to fight the Wraith, and when that failed, the Lanteans exterminated the original population (or so they thought). Eventually the Lanteans packed off back to the Milky Way, and presumably at least one of them (Reese's "Father") started over again, creating Reese who in turn created the various block-form Replicators. They wiped out Father's world, but instead of taking over the Milky Way, they all headed for the Ida galaxy to pester the Asgard (probably becuase of their affinity for higher technologies). The rest is history.

So, it seems that the Asurans and the Replicators are both offshoots of the same nanite-based technology.

Mark

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Daniel Butler
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That's a little more contrived than I would've hoped. I think they just should have kept the Asurans as asshole Ancients.
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Mark Nguyen
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But ALL the Ancients have been assholes. Why continue the trend?

Mark

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Daniel Butler
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Yeah. They're the worst good guys ever.
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Oma wasn't that bad. Yah, I mean she kind of screwed up the once. But she wasn't mean. Plus she talked in really cool riddles. And wasn't half bad to look at.

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