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Well a few things in the first "webisode"

It's a flash back to first Cylon war

Bill Adama is a rookie pilot not flown a combat mission yet and he's now stationed on the Galactica. He's already pretty "friendly" with that other pilot! [Wink]

The Cylon's are guarding something in "ass end of nowhere", and people think it's a super weapon. I remember reading that, Razor and the new webisode's were gonna introduce stuff that would play out during Season 4, so I'm thinking that it's this super weapon. I think it's either gonna be destroyed in the first war and be rebuilt in time for the second, or that it was never destroyed and is still out there. I reckon that in Razor, Pegasus will come across it in it's own escape from the Colonies, and that it pop up to terrorize the rag tag fleet in season 4, as they make the final trip to Earth.

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Actually I thin k the "super weapon" is actually the prototype resurrection ship/facility, based on the previews.

I do like how the old flight suits are somewhat similar to those from the original series. In fact, BSG:OS fans should enjoy Razor since I gather there's going to be allot of Original series references. Old model Centurions, worthy of the name 'toaster', and I think I even spotted and old saucer shaped raider in one of the previews.

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From the dialog and the mention of an ice planet, I had the impression the Secret Cylon Super Weapon (TM) was a "Gun on Ice Planet Zero."

4,000+ days into the war (can't remember the exact figure and I'm not checking right now) placed it at about 11 or 12 years, assuming 365 days for a year.

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I was a little disappointed that the Galactica did not have its old school look, though I guess there's still time for TOS Battlestars to appear. Also I was surprised that Raptors were in use as early as the war, even though there was never any evidence to refute this.
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Don't remember the exact figure right now, either, but I remember working it out to 12 1/2 years.

I'm glad we'll see the original Raiders, but I'm also disappointed that they used the same Raptor. I know they didn't need to waste money on a new set piece to just be used for this, but it would be interesting to see a Raptor design that's a true contemporary to the Mk II Viper.

And maybe this will finally silence the people who keep saying the Galactica had her armor stripped!

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Original series fans should be happy with this.
Not just Raiders, but original Basestars too.
Also check out 00:34 on this clip and spot the familiar face hiding at the end of a hallway.

As for the Raptor, while I'm sure the reason for keeping the existing one is financial, it can be rationalised. If you imaging that the Raptor is the Colonial's principle electronic warfare and recon ship then it's not unreasonable to assume that it was developed during they Cylon war, where electronic warfare and of course counter EW was pushed to a whole new level. The reason it's the same ship 40 hears later is just a testament to how well they were designed and to a degree, how little need there has been, since the armistice, to design a better one.
There are real world precedents for this, the Canberra and the USAF B-52 have both been in service for longer thn 40 years, so it's possible.

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Yeah, Friday's episode was AWESOME! Adama really knows how to handle that Viper!

I like how they showed how much larger the Raider was than the Viper in those first few seconds. Although that Raider model was very close to the one in TOS, there were some subtle changes. The most obvious is that the wingtips were pushed slightly forward, sorta echoing the forward prongs of the modern Raider.

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The basestars were pretty awesome. Maybe it was me, but did it seem like they were rotating as they fired? Also that Battlestar that was destroyed was called Columbia, but the Miniseries also had a Columbia that was destroyed. I guess it was rebuilt only to be destroyed again.
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Well, of the original 12 weren't all save Galactica lost in the first war? I might be misremembering but I thought the old bucket was the last to survive, hence being turned into a museum.

As for they guy playing young Adama, either he's an excellent mimic or Olmos is being dubbed over his combat dialogue.

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I can now add that Flare's favorite CGI pro guy "Mojo" was involved in composing and animating many of the shots in these minisodes. In a conversation with him this summer, we talked about specific shots from the original BSG show that he was re-doing in CG, as a tribute to the original modelwork. You can see at least one of them in minisode 3. 200 cubits if you can pick them out. [Smile]

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Shouldn't be too hard, the original show only had about 6 effect shots that were recycled over and over and over... [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
I can now add that Flare's favorite CGI pro guy "Mojo" was involved in composing and animating many of the shots in these minisodes. In a conversation with him this summer, we talked about specific shots from the original BSG show that he was re-doing in CG, as a tribute to the original modelwork. You can see at least one of them in minisode 3. 200 cubits if you can pick them out. [Smile]

Mark

I only watched them on Youtube since I'm from the UK, so the quality wasn't fantastic, but I was really blown away by Flashback 3. I mean, if this is the stuff they cut out of Razor.. [Big Grin] I saw a few shots that reminded me of the original series. There was a shot of a raider gliding over the top of Galactica that was quite reminiscent, as well as the style of the explosions. I'll have to watch it again now and see if they redid the distinctive shot with a raider blowing up in the top right hand corner. That shot seemed to get used more than any other in TOS, but it was very good.

Great to have the debate about the hull armour solved now as well, since Columbia was covered in more panels than Galactica. We can assume that ships are supposed to be totally covered in the armour. The only question is why Galactica hasn't been made as ship shape as Columbia. You'd think extra hull protection would be a top priority.

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quote:
Originally posted by Johnny:
Great to have the debate about the hull armour solved now as well, since Columbia was covered in more panels than Galactica. We can assume that ships are supposed to be totally covered in the armour. The only question is why Galactica hasn't been made as ship shape as Columbia. You'd think extra hull protection would be a top priority.

Actually, I don't think we can assume that at all. *I* think that it shows Galactica never had extra armor over the ribbed areas, and was never meant to. Columbia is the same type of battlestar as Galactica, but in a slightly different configuration, likely due to production changes and/or improvements. Kinda like how the nuclear carrier Ronald Reagan is the same type of vessel as the Nimitz, but looks a lot different.
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Also, due to reused stock footage, it seems that Galactica was always "ribbed".
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Having significantly less hull plating seems like more than a slightly different configuration, but you're right. There's not really enough information to be sure either way as to whether Galactica ever had the same amount of plating as Columbia. It seems odd to me though.

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