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I found it interesting to learn on one of the documentaries that, early on, the vortex effect was created by filming a jet engine turn on under water. Later on, they switched to CGI. I just thought that was cool.
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Sorry I have been staying away from this thread in-case of season 6 (past "The Other Guys") and season 7 spoilers. Are there any in this thread - at all?
Anyway I just saw one post about the Antarctic gate. It had nothing to do with the Goa'uld. The Stargate network was set-up by the Ancients. The Goa'uld just found the tech and exploited it. Maybe they specifically brough the Giza Gate to Earth or maybe they sent a Jaffa through to the Earth Co-ordinates when there was only the Ice-cave and gave up. Or possibly it was superceeded by the Giza gate - although the Antarctic gate DID have DHD as well (so that would have been the over-riding gate for Earth. BUT it *DID* have a different 'home' chevron/glyph for some reason.
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It's not sure if the Goa'uld knew about the Antarctic gate - but it is sure they did use it, even if just by accident. "Frozen" mentions several Jaffa corpses all around the gate. IIRC, no estimate is given to their age, as opposed to giving the ages of the gate and the possible
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Well... the Ancients would have had to have developed space travel before Stargate travel. They would have had to have set up the Stargate network before being able to use it.
Now... in the Ep where they discovered the Beta Gate, someone asks Teal'c what would happen if a Gate on an important planet became unusable, or something. He responds by saying that the Goaul'd would bring another, I believe. So, it would seem that the Giza gate is not originally from Earth but was brought after the Beta Gate became non-functional. Perhaps a cave in or glacier shift covered the Gate trapping and killing the Jaffa.
Man... I was I had this ep on DVD... anyone know of a site that would have the script of this episode?
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Sorry can't help you out about scripts Aban. Can anyone tell me if my question about any season 6 or 7 spoilers are in this thread?
There also has to be a way for some of the other Goa'uld to leave earth AFTER the Giza rebellion (as mentioned by Daniel Jackson). Some of them represent cultures that came AFTER the Egyptian gods and AFTER Ra and his buddies were kicked out. And if they brought a ship back - why not just take over the planet again?
Maybe the Asgard had some hand in booting Ra and co. off Earth helping the Humans at the time?
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I don't think there have been any spoilers past season 5. We talked about the episode 48 Hours, and I think that's the latest ep we've touched on.
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Actually, as I recall, we only get a brief glimpse of the vortex/whirlpool effect in the movie. That being the case, one might conclude that the vortex is only briefly present after activation, and then flattens out; perhaps a brief “after-effect” that occurs after the initial “whoosh” collapses on the front of the gate.
However, this theory is shot if the TV series has shown the back of the gate when it is activated. Has the back of the gate ever been seen at the instant of activation?
In reality, I am curious to know if the “vortex” effect was something the TV show producers overlooked, or if they consciously chose to drop the vortex effect on the TV series.
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"However, this theory is shot if the TV series has shown the back of the gate when it is activated. Has the back of the gate ever been seen at the instant of activation?"
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On the flipside, we haven't seen a single Jaffa helmet in use for several years. The last time we even really saw 'em was hanging as trophies or something in season five's "The Warrior". Other than that, it's been skullcaps all the way.
Obviously they were abandoned as being too costly to operate all the time, or probably too cumbersome for large number of extras or for running around a lot. Those things are awful top heavy...
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Most of the galaxy seems to be out to kill all the Gowaould' so maybe they don't have the resources they once had, and can't afford the helmets for Jaffa, who are going to die anyway.
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We DO get to see the Apophis snake-head helmet collapse every-now and then. I remember it especially in Season 1 and in season 2 with Master Bra'tak on Klorel's ship. And a few times after that. Admittedly we don't see it ALL the time - but we do see it.
We don't see the Horus guard's do it. (well not yet).
I wish they'd make some helmets for some of the other Goa'uld. Hheh heheh the Setesh guards!
The only time I can remember the whirlpool effect being shown in the TV series is the episode with the Black-hole.
So that was my suggestion - maybe the whirlpool at the back only happens after the gate hasn't been activated for many-a-year. Explaining why we've only really seen it happen in the movie.
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