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I put the spoiler signs in so we could speak freely. The movie isn't out, and if you haven't read the books, well, your loss. For the movie so far we have;
Frodo- Elijah Wood Sam- Sean Astin Gandalf- Ian McKellen Bilbo- Ian Holm Pippin- Billy Boyd Aragorn- Viggo Mortensen Arwen- Liv Tyler Merry- Dominic Monaghan Legolas- Orlando Bloom Gimli- John Rhys Davies Saruman- Christopher Lee Boromir- Sean Bean Faramir- Ethan Hawke Ted Sandyman- Brian Sergent
Ringbearer has moved, and the bombidil campaign seems to be over, since filming has begun. http://fandom.com/ringbearer/
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I think its FANTASTIC that Ian McKellan SP?? is doing Gandalf - I recently saw Gods and Monsters - he was fantastic - absolutely great - now we just need Patrick Stewart as Saruman.
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I think I agree with The First One. What exactly does Bombadil do to advance the movie's storyline? And this is a movie, remember. His inclusion would have little to do with the overall plot of the film, and take time away from the rest of the story.
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The whole nature of the storytelling evolves throught the book. . . the sudden dip straight into the more fantastic realms just after they leave the Shire does tend to jar a bit when looked at that way. . . However, some important information is supplied during their stay in the Old Forest, and if you lose Bombadil you lose the Barrow Wight and then you lose the Knife of Westernesse which is the ultimate downfall of the Lord of the Nazgul. Plus Frodo's similar misadventure on Weathertop when his knife perishes. So I feel conflicted about Bombadil, now.
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The "problem" with Bombadil is that he's a rather vague and complex character. However, all of that is merely hinted at in the book, and no answers are ever really raised. I don't see how you can translate that to film without spending much more time on the character than the book did, relatively speaking. But by doing that you get even further from the book, in which he was never more than an intriguing minor character.
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Am I the only one who has serious doubts about the movie project? I don't believe that a book like LotR can make a satisfying movie. I fear that it will become a gicantic FX-orgy with stupid dialogues and simplifications to make even the ignorants happy who haven't read the book or hate it. Everyone has another approach to read and enjoy this book. Personally, I especially enjoyed the dark atmosphere of The Silmarillion and The Lost Tales and the dark chapters in the main trilogy. "Thou shall not stand between the Nazg�l and his prey. Or else...." etc. This is pure, written magic!!! (gets enthusiastic). But I think that the movie will concentrate on romance and huge FX-battles. I cannot imagine how they can show the desperation and horror of the people of Gondor under the spell of the Nazg�ls flying over Minas Tirith. I doubt that the movie will catch the magic of the written word. Does everyone of you know the movie Dune (of course you do, this is an SciFi-Forum ) Nearly everybody I know hates the movie, but I love its bizarre, dark, somewhat anticommercial approach. Lynch should do the LotR-Movie! Most of the people would hate it, but the real lovers of the book who have read the Forestories and have studied the maps hour for hour would be satisfied. (I'm sorry for the disastrous grammar and spelling)
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I'll give David Lynch credit for trying with"Dune", but it was not a good movie. At least with Lord of the Rings, it will be three movies, instead of trying to crowd it all into one.
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A friend of mine told me that, in one of the books that I haven't read, "Tales" perhaps, it was explained that Tom Bombadil was one of the Miar(My-are),Can't remember the spelling. It's been a while since I've read any of the books. Anyway, he was one of the same people as Gandalf, but Bombadil had "gone native" living as one of the other races would live. There were others of their race in middle earth. Sauraman was one, who went bad, The one who wore the brown robes(Raglin or something like that) two who had gone into Saron's lands, and never returned.
I'm about to change service providers at home, as soon as I can get that mess straightened out, I'll look up some of the names, and get back to this.
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Yes Kosh, he was supposedly a Maia who had 'gone native' There were the Valar - i.e. Manwe, Yavanna, Aule, Melkor etc. there were also the Maiar - of which we know Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast (Brown robes) Sauron, and the two unnamed Blue robed Istari were.
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But if they had to cast someone from Inventing the Abbots, why not Jennifer Connelly? She's got a dreamy quality about her that would fit in nicely, I think.
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) Nearly everybody I know hates the movie, but I love its bizarre, dark, somewhat anticommercial approach. Lynch should do the LotR-Movie! Most of the people would hate it, but the real lovers of the book who have read the Forestories and have studied the maps hour for hour would be satisfied. (I'm sorry for the disastrous grammar and spelling)
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