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Aban Rune
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You know... I get a significant amount of joy from following these conversations.

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Sol System
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1.) I have never played X-Wing Alliance.

2.) If Lucasarts would go back (again) and release refurbished versions it would be a license to print money.

3.) How come there aren't any space sims anymore? Like, I played a little Freelancer and I was pointing and clicking. The hell is that?

4.) I'd also like a Space Quest VII please, Sierra, but no "action-adventure" hybrid.

(I feel I should make this confession here: I bought the expansion sets for both X-Wing and TIE Fighter and, besides one or two missions, never played them. I still feel guilty about it.)

5.) I'm not sure I see why having those bulbs be shield generators is such a terrible idea. I mean, if they're generating the shields then they ought to be inside them, surely, and thus as protected as anything else?

Finally; I wasn't really kidding too much in suggesting that an outfit like the Empire might have very valid reasons for stressing form over function.

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Jason Abbadon
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I always thought they were shield generators: as soon as they lose one (in Jedi) a bridge officer announces "We've lost our forward shield!".

Seems pretty conclusive to me.

Remember, this ship is made by the same guys that allowed accurate schematics of the Death Star to fall into Rebel hands not once, but twice in an attempt to lure the rebels into a trap.

"Sure, the rebels used the plans we let them steal to destroy the first Death Star, bit this time it'll be diffrent...really! After all, we've parked our giant command ship in a close orbit of the station. What could possibly go wrong?"

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Nim
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Jason: Read the link Mucus posted, very informative.

Simon, you should definitely play "X-Wing: Alliance", it is immensely satisfying. Great plot and characters and the YT-2000 is frankly the best Star Wars ship ever.

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Jason Abbadon
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I've read through that site several times in the past and it always strikes me a fans desperately trying to explain away the more senseless aspects and errors of the SW movies.

Their explanation is that the shields failed at the exact same moment that the "sensor" some was destroyed: no reason is given as to WHY and it's called a "flukey system failure".

More like a logic failure on their part.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Cartman:
"THEY ARE SHIELDS IN X-WING"

BUT IN XN-WIG AILANC THEIR NOT SO I MEAN WTF TEHY CANT B SHEALDS NAD SNESORZ @ TEH SAME TIEM RITE??

No, they're shield generators there too. Also in the Rogue Squadron games (although they also make the big dome on the bottom one as well, slightly bizairly).

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If we on the tangent of ridiculous technical mistakes, may I add the Executor nose-diving into the Death Star? This is space - ships don't nose-dive into a nearby structure unless the captain deliberately orders a collision in the first place. Using reality, god forbid, the super star destroyer would have been adrift. Furthermore, if the Executor did find a way somehow to impact the Death Star (silly name [Roll Eyes] ), I think the results would be catastrophic for the space station. If a rock of sufficient mass hitss the moon,there are moonquakes. Wouldn't there be a station quake when the two vehicles collided? (This last bit may be a bit silly, then again, maybe not. [Razz] )
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Aban Rune
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What's silly is the idea that the SSD was flying close enough to such a massive body to impact it no matter what its orientation or course was. Precision flying planes hit things when they get bumped off course... not giant starships. But, the fact that it didn't hit the death star with greater speed could (I suppose) be attributed to engines being fired at full reverse trying to stop.

But seriously... how could X wings generate anywhere near the force needed to move something of that mass. Did it impact because they took out the bridge and navigation was thrown off? Still... it never would have been that close to the DS.

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B.J.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
3.) How come there aren't any space sims anymore?

Can I join you in this rant? I really miss the likes of X-Wing, TIE Fighter and Wing Commander. I still have my special CD edition of TIE Fighter but I CAN'T FREAKIN' PLAY IT ON MY COMPUTER! My joystick has been sitting mostly idle for YEARS now.

(One small bright spot, though: the independent B5 Starfury sim "I've Found Her". Some minor issues but very cool overall! Too bad it's really only a demo and not much for replay value yet.)

B.J.

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Nim
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Aban: You seem to forget that the fight took place very close to the station, Calrissian and the other fighters could turn around and enter the Death Star II within moments of noticing the dropped shield.

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But seriously... how could X wings generate anywhere near the force needed to move something of that mass.
What do you mean, X-Wings moving something?
An A-Wing crashed into the main bridge of the Executor, the ensuing fire spreading in the bridge structure covered several decks and probably extended a rather long way inside the structure as well.
The explosion and fire obviously destroyed vital equipment keeping tabs on orbit stabilization, engine output and guidance thrusters, and the gravitation fiend of the space station sucked the ship into it.

It would've crashed into the station nose-first if the nose was the point of the ship closest to the station, and it was traveling forward at the time.

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Aban Rune
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Um, I said...
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Did it impact because they took out the bridge and navigation was thrown off?
It's been a while since I've seen the movie and I didn't remember if the one that got up close and personal with the A-Wing was the one that nose-dived.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by B.J.:
My joystick has been sitting mostly idle for YEARS now.

....no.
Too easy. [Big Grin]

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Lee
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quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
You know... I get a significant amount of joy from following these conversations.

This is what no sex before marriage does to you, people!

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Jason Abbadon
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So...one fateful night Aban winn need his bride to whisper sweet nothings about starship inconsistantcies and the probable length of The Defiant to get off?


Hmmm...at least he's not a Furry, I suppose.

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Aban Rune
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It's not the length of my Defiant, it's the fact that I carry a full compliment of Quantum Torpedos.

Good grief...

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