Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
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This article may be from the Toronto Star, but look at the byline.
Interesting, isn't it?
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quote: But they have committed nearly $300 million for Iraqi reconstruction. As well, for the past two years, Canada has sent more than 2,000 troops to Afghanistan, which freed U.S. troops to focus on Iraq.
Oh! That's right! Nobody wants to rebuild Afghanistan!
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"This is no way to treat a long-time friend..."
Friend? B)
Really, this is just symptomatic of the "if you're not with us, you're against us" doctrine, and but so therefore (with apologies to Timmy) Canada is Not Alone in its indignation.
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Gotta hand it to them, for speaking out against the Fast Ferry project... They rightly called Rochester boring and dull.
People want to go to Canada, but for the life of me I can't figure out WHY people would want to come here?
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Saltah'na
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: "This is no way to treat a long-time friend..."
Friend? B)
Forgot to mention, we are not their long-time friend. Mexico is, along with Britain. We are just virgin territory just WAITING to be invaded.... the future 51-55th States of the American Dictatorial Empire.
And who would care if the Americans invaded. Like the whole world likes to say: "Blame Canada!!"
-------------------- "And slowly, you come to realize, it's all as it should be, you can only do so much. If you're game enough, you could place your trust in me. For the love of life, there's a tradeoff, we could lose it all but we'll go down fighting...." - David Sylvian FreeSpace 2, the greatest space sim of all time, now remastered!
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Boo Hoo. You're being included in the rebuilding: it just a ploy so to encourage countries to forgive Iraq's astronomical debts and as usual it's being handled (and reported) in a ham-handed manner. Whining like a child that diding get the last cupcake just make you look silly.
As I pointed out: why not rebuild in Afghanistan? Or Iran for that matter after their quake?
Mabye it's because Iraq's going to be the new "west freindly" country in the region and Canada wants to be in on the ground floor, eh?
While i dont personally feel this way, many Americans look at canada right now as our fairweather freind that refused to send troops when we needed them. And you sided with FRANCE against us, and being associated with Chirac's snide attitude is going to take some serious fence mending with the mainstream that feel Canada is intitled to nothing in Iraq. While it's not fair, Canada was rarely reported in a positive light before the war started and less so during "official" fighting.
I laughed my ass off when Saddam was captured and the very first PM's to vocally congradulate the US/Britan were those of France and Canada. Chriac actually said it was "a great day for freedom". Hypocritical prick. Hell, even Russia was pleased....at least offically, anyway, that we'd caught Saddam.
Canada miight see itself as being rightously snubbed by the US just now, but most people in the US see it as "just desserts".
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quote:It may stick in our craw to watch Germany and France get rich in Iraq when American blood opened doors they tried to jam closed. But that will be Iraq's best chance to remain independent and free with the support of the whole world.
Instead, we're creating a situation where it will be perceived by the German and French and Russian governments and people that it is in their interest to topple the pro-American regime. How does that help us or anyone? Forget past affronts -- in making future policy, we must think about what will lead to the best chance for the new Iraqi government to succeed.
Part of the problem with allowing Russia a say in anything is that they'd likely support a new warlord's position over a democratic one if it makes them money and strengthens their position in Iraq. If everyone was really on the same page concerning Iraq becoming a stable, independant democracy, I'd love to see all theses "snubbed" countries have an equal say. Mabye I'd feel more charitable about it all if two of my freinds werent shipping off this month to do peacekeeping in the middle east with only Canada, Russia, Germany and France's best wishes at their backs instead of troops.
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"If everyone was really on the same page concerning Iraq becoming a stable, independant democracy..."
This would seem to be a different page than the US is on, no?
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Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
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TSN: Last I heard, the maritimes would constitute one state, Ontario another, the Praries the third, and BC the fourth. It would appear that the US is not interested in the vast space of ice known as the Territories. And Quebec would be independant. Unless you would like to stop that.
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Probably a Puerto Rico kind of thing. We wouldn't want anyone to think they were actually part of the country, but we'd still want to control them.
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An odd way to describe the complicated relationship between Puerto Rico and the Federal Government.
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Mabye it's because Iraq's going to be the new "west freindly" country in the region and Canada wants to be in on the ground floor, eh?
Or maybe it's because Canada doesn't like being slapped in the face for not slavishly offering military backup when the US went the "hey, let's invade a sovereign state on a shaky set of assumptions and scoff everyone who politely declines to join our little foreign crapshoot even though we will probably come to depend upon them for aid because we have grossly underestimated the task of rebuilding the country and we could be bringing our economy to the edge of bankruptcy unless we attract some of the sponsors we're pissing off but we won't admit any of it at this stage because we're playing things Bogart and don't want to break character yet" route despite repeated warnings from the international community that such acting wouldn't sit well with the majority of its members, Canada included.
Maybe.
But then, who'd have thought the US would actually organize a donor conference to bail itself out?
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So you warned us, sat in judgment of us, decided that you wanted nothing to do with the whole situation, sent no troops, congradualted us when we toppeled the dictatorship and again when we caught saddam, and are now upset that you're not being given the spoils of a war you condemned. Great! Like I pointed out: there's PLENTY of oppournitunities in Afghanistan...why arent all the other countries leaping in to rebuild there? Mabye it's because they'd have to put their own ground troops in to secure any kind of rebuilding effort: the UN sure as hell isint going to send any.
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