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I just ran across a picture from ST2 when the Reliant is firing on the E. I just notice we see the top of the connector neck, but NO SAUCER! Did this make it to film that way? I don't have a copy of the film to check, but is the saucer MISSING in the shot of the phaser hit on the port photon launcher?
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Looks to me like a completely different effects shot, either re-done on a model which didn't have a saucer. . . or it's been cropped for some reason. The one without any saucer might have been a test shot or something.
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For the movie they closed in far enough that you couldn't tell. They actually built a large wax version of the upper secondary hull from the front of the neck to where the pylon starts, specifically for that shot. There was no saucer, and in fact in some behind the scene photos you can even see that only the upper half of the deflector dish is there with nothing below it. Several magazines, etc have pictures of this, but I do believe they have several pics from this shot on the TWOK:SE DVD.
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Oddly enough, while the TWOK missing saucer is bogus, there ARE some funny glitches with the Enterprise in the movies. Notable, if you watch Trek III, when the bridge explodes, notice the superstructure is sitting on a flat surface that isn't remotely shaped like the saucer.
I also seem to recall --albeit I could be mistaken -- that when the Enterprise fires the photorps at the Bird of Prey, the causer seen above doesn't "fit" right on the neck. I suspect the neck is the same one used in TWOK and they matted a saucer in above it.
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Here's the closest [cappable] frame to the one in question. It appears the most noticable flaws in this possible recreation(most likely?) is the missing nacelle (which was visible in all shots of 'the hit' up to the zoom) and both the phaser hit and the shot of the picture in itself, are at the wrong angle.
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Well, a bunch of genetic supermen who'd been living on a shithole planet for 20 years and have suddenly found themselves in possession of state-of-the-art space weaponry despite never having fought a space engagement before would probably just aim as close to the centre of the target as possible and hope for the best. . .
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Actually I think that was at the point where the two ships nearly collided and they were pulling a 'roll and shoot' maneuver where very little aim or precision was actually involved. Khan just got off a lucky shot.
I'm actually more intrigued with the 'type' of phasers the ships were armed with. Not really 'phaser-beams' but more like 'phaser-arrows'.
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Or, Khan targeted the torpedo bay so that in the event he wasn't successful in destroying Enterprise on the first pass, he would have at least severely impaired Enterprise's ability to fight back.
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: Oh ... is that bottom left image a mirror-flip of the E's approach to Spacedock in Star Trek III? Was the moon always there?
Publicity photo. Doesn't actually appear int he film.
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