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Masao
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After spending the last few months drawing cat people for a TAS webcomic, I've finally gotten back to drawing ships. Here's a refinement of my "Starmaster" transport, which has been in the WIP section of the Starfleet Museum for about 2 years (http://www.starfleet-museum.org/sf-transports.htm ). I thought the original version was sort of blobby with too-large Connie nacelles, so I gave the ship slab sides, a single nacelle, and an enormous stern shuttlebay. It's about 225 m long. I'll probably do a version with smaller outboard nacelles.  -

EDIT: DAMN! Wrong forum!!! Can a mod please move this thread?

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Very Nice Masao!
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Looks a bit like a TOS phaser, especially the bottom view. [Eek!]

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Now all we need is some kind of tank that docks to the ventral part of ship [Big Grin]

Personally I would move registry so it's no longer on that clamshell doors, and move that red fin so it doesn't obscure path to the clamshell doors as well.

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[Smile] I was thinking it looks like a phase pistol. At least from the front. Very cool though.

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I love the overall design of it. I've always wanted to see a carrier-like ship done in the TOS-style. But the nacelle looks too much like a nacelle jammed up a ship's ass for no good reason. Any way of making it look like it belongs there?

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Very Cool [Smile]
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Masao
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"Phase pistol"? What's that? Some sort of new-fangled ray gun?

For a midline nacelle, there wasn't much of a choice of where to put it, if I wanted to have a shuttle bay in the tail. I could have put it on a pylon and put it above or below the hull, but that would've defeated the purpose of a single nacelle by making the ship too tall to dock at cargo terminals easily. The grey thing beneath the nacelle is for engineering.

I thought of putting the registry right in front of the bridge and off the front dorsal bay doors but it looked a bit cramped. The doors are closedly >99% of the time, so the registry can usually be read ok.

Thanks for the comments, guys.

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Irishman
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Why the single, midline nacelle anyway? Going for more of a classic naval look?

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Masao
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quote:
Originally posted by Irishman:
Why the single, midline nacelle anyway? Going for more of a classic naval look?

A lot of my Romulan-War�era ships have midline nacelles, so it's consistent with my design lineage. Also, I figure that outboard nacelles make it more difficult for ships to dock with a terminal and offload cargo (you can't beam everything off).

Also also like the look of Syd Mead's Marine Corps ship in "Aliens."

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Interesting. looks like it might be a distant descendent of the old DYs.
I'd be interested to see a through line section diagram, to see how these large shuttlebays relate to one-another.
The only thing I would add would be some minimal armaments and perhaps some detailing on that ventral fin to indicate that it might have something to do with deuterium refuelling.

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What about two midline nacelles, stacked one atop the other? It would ring more true to canon period design and look more intentional.

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Speaking of rings, what about a Vulcan inspired warp drive?
If it's kept close to the hull it could solve the docking issue and present a somewhat unique looking design, at least as far as the SFM is concerned.

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Rev: I don't think a ring would work so well. it would definitely be larger than a single nacelle and would be novel for the museum, but would also be sort of a random mutation!

The ventral block is a feature lifted from TAS USS Huron. I'm not sure what it does on Huron, but I was thinking that here it is some sort of cargo loading or docking device. It's probably too far forward for deuterium loading, since all the drive mechanics are at the rear.

It's got phasers, but since this is TOS you can't see 'em!

Irishman: As for two stacked nacelles, I think that arrangement would be heavier and more complex than a single big nacelle. They certainly take up more space vertically.
Also, which canon ships have this arrangement? This ship is supposed to be TOS era.

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It's not the vertical stacking that's canonical, it's two nacelles. There are no TOS era single nacelle starships. Plus, there are no imbedded nacelles at all, but since you've decided to go that route, you'd be breaking fewer rules by including two nacelles.

Plus, I don't think a single nacelle of oh, say, 3000 metric tonnes equals the performance and function of two 1500 tonne nacelles. I may be wrong, but bigger doesn't equal better.

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