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Does anyone know where I can get information about Earthforce uniforms, rank insignia, service bars, shoulder patches, etc.?
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I seem to recall that a lot of that information was available in a (possibly official) book called the "Babylon 5 Security Manual." Kind of a tech manual for B5. I've never looked through it much, aside from one time when I borrowed a copy from a friend to get some precise measurements on the size of the station and of the habitat cylinders.
If you're looking for internet resources, I really don't know for certain.
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quote:I seem to recall that a lot of that information was available in a (possibly official) book called the "Babylon 5 Security Manual."
I've heard about that. Unfortunatley I can't order it from Amazon.com, 'cos I don't have a credit card. Amazon.co.uk says it's out of stock and Amazon.de doesn't have it.
quote:If you're looking for internet resources, I really don't know for certain.
Yeah, that's my problem.
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I have it. When I get home from the wedding on Monday or Tuesday, I'll compile tha ish for you.
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quote:I have it. When I get home from the wedding on Monday or Tuesday, I'll compile tha ish for you.
Ok, thx.
quote:I don't know if they ship to Austria
They do but I'd have to pay a fee of 10 Euro just for the money transfer.
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Uniform The uniforms on the station have changed a few times since we went on-line (due to the breakaway from Earth, the war, etc). Full schematics on the uniforms can be downloaded from the computer. You will be expected to be familiar with these.
The basic uniform jacket has leather on the right front panel, collar, and cuffs, although some tunics do not have leather at all. There are bronze clamps on the left shoulder (e.g., a Starfury patch) and a unit badge on the right. An EA command patch with your name on it is worn on the left breast )and, where appropriate, any off-world patch).
Command staff memmbers, such as the chief of Security, wear a mainly black uniform given as a gift by the Minbari. It is made of various materials. The stitching on the front panel is Zirka thread. Zirka thread is derived from a rare Minbari plant; the inclusion of it in a gift of clothing is a rare honor. Zirka thread produces a mild allergic reaction in eighy percent of Humans. Due to cutbacks in the system, officers will be expected to pay for the fitting and upkeep of their own uniforms.
The dress uniform has no leather on the jacket panel. Variations include silver piping on jacketg sleeves.
The combat uniform is worn beneath a grey or black flak jacket designed to dissipate the impact of energy weapons.
Uniform Colors Blue................EarthForce space forces Green/brown.........Earthforce Marines (surface division) Grey................Security officers Charcoal............Medical Light grey..........Prison Black...............Psi Corps Yellow..............Station techs, maintenance crews (not part of the EA)
The Earth Alliance symbol (EA command badge/patch) is a stylized EA in silhouette, and then altered within the lines to accomodate different divisions-Command has crosshatching, Secury has a gun sight, and technicians (electricians) a lightning strike. These are worn on the left chest, directly over the stat bar.
Stat Bars These are bars of colored metal worn beneath the EA badge on the left breast. The color indicates the "status" of the wearer, not the rank (which is indicated by bars on the epaulettes).
Also on the right shoulder of Starfury squad members is a winged planet emblem, a five-pointed command insignia circled by red and gold and overlaid with gold wings over the pilot's name.
You will be expected to remember the following ranks in the station, denoted by their badges:
General (joint chiefs).....Five "stars" om a circle General....................Polygon, one bronze bar, two stylized stars Colonel....................Silver bird Major......................Three diamond shapes Captain....................Two diamond shapes Lieutenant.................One diamond shape Chief warrant officer......One diamond shape with oblique black stripe areas Admiral....................Polygon and three bronze stars Captain....................Polygon and two bronze stars Commander..................Polygon and one bronze star Lieutenant Commander.......Polygon and one silver bar Ensign.....................Bronze star
That's all that's in the security manual on uniforms.
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Thank you very much. Unfortunately some things aren't explained like NCO rank insignia or the different sizes of the stat bars.
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You cock-man oppressor!
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The rank of Admiral within EarthForce was mentioned a few times in the first season, and completely abandoned afterwards.
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Actually, thats an interesting question isn't it? How do naval and army command (and air force for that matter) structures mesh together in real life, for that matter?
I imagine Gropos would have interesting observations on the subject in B5, although I haven't seen that episode in loooong time. Looks like I'll need to get the Season 2 DVDs to continue my collection, when they come out as well
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In real life there is a very simple list of grades. In B5, your guess is as good as mine. Captain Sheridan seemed to take his orders exclusively from generals. (Well, generals and half-baked alien mystics.)
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