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Or the same way that First Officer's in 2265 managed to tell Chief Petty Officer's and lieutenants apart. They didn't.
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Yes.. it must be the haircuts. For men, the shorter or longer the pointy-sideburns and the higher the beehive 'do for the women!
Or we could just give into reality, Gene thought only officers would ever serve on Starships and that Starfleet was too good to have NCO's in the '60s. Well, he put it in more diplomatic terms than I did in the "Making of Star Trek."
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hm i was almost onto something when i realized that Nurse Chapel, who had 'signed aboard' from private research (i.e. not completing Academy training officer school) was a NCO, and had a colored collar instead of a black collar. But then i realized the Yeoman Rand (who didn't become an officer until sometime after TMP, when she was a chief, after '10 years' of service) should have been a noncom also, and had a black collar.. mustve been the beehive
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Actually, I believe it was established that Chapel is an officer (if it were the real military than she bypassed the academy by going to Officer's Canidacy School). Her rank of Lieutenant, I believe, was seen on her ID card in an episode of the animated adventures. After all, she had a Ph.D. when she joined up with the Enterprise. She eventually got her M.D. and was promoted to Lt. Commander.
But if you notice, the women had different cuts of collar (perhaps to denote officer or non-com?).
But what about EarthForce, how do they tell non-com from officers.
The easy answer, the leather strap down the middle of the uniform; however, Lt. Corwin didn't have a leather strap for the first season and was reffered to as "Lieutenant." Maybe non-coms, Ensigns, 2nd Lts, all share the same cut of uniform until they rise in rank.
Hmmm.
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Except that Corwin didn't have his strap in season 2, but did in season 3, even before he got promoted.
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Speaking of that promotion, I just watched it before I went to work earlier. Interesting to note that in S2 "And Now For A Word," when Cynthia Torquemann interviewed Corwin, it said he was a 2LT, yet in S3 "Exogenesis" when he was promoted, he went from LTJG to full LT. And all with the blue uni.
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Wierd. Second Lieutenant is an Army rank. Nominally equivalent to a Naval Ensign, but etymologically equivalent to a Naval Junior Grade Lieutenant. I figure the reporter was just stupid when it came to ranks, and Corwin was the LtJG she was trying to come up with...
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quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: I figure the reporter was just stupid when it came to ranks, and Corwin was the LtJG she was trying to come up with...
Actually, that makes a lot of sense. The reporter did get some things wrong, like Ivonova's name.
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Wierd. Second Lieutenant is an Army rank. Nominally equivalent to a Naval Ensign, but etymologically equivalent to a Naval Junior Grade Lieutenant. I figure the reporter was just stupid when it came to ranks, and Corwin was the LtJG she was trying to come up with...
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Indeed. JMS said that EF Space Forces were a combo of Navy and Air Force; and in the USAF 2nd LT is a rank. But the etymology is still correct in any case.
quote: Actually, that makes a lot of sense. The reporter did get some things wrong, like Ivonova's name. (from PsyLiem)
Agreed. I just finished a stint in broadcast television and reporters constantly FUBAR'd military ranks.
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Ohh-ho, boy... I wince every time I see a reporter so obviously non-versed in militaria get some operational or organizational term incredibly wrong. I think the worst was an interviewer who called a Marine Colonel "Captain", thinking the Marines use Naval ranks (as related in a later apology).
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