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I prefer Opera more than Firefox... then again I can use Tab in Mozilla more.
-------------------- "It speaks to some basic human needs: that there is a tomorrow, it's not all going to be over with a big splash and a bomb, that the human race is improving, that we have things to be proud of as humans." -Gene Roddenberry about Star Trek
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Charles Capps
We appreciate your concern. It is noted and stupid.
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The notice is in a big red box not because this site is impacted, but because the word needs to get out there, and I could think of no less effective way of making people pay attention than something in your face and irksome, as opposed to highly annoying.
Seriously, who pays attention to the announcement forum? Certainly not the half dozen people from Earthlink with their spam blocker enabled that have tried to sign up in the past few months.
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quote:Originally posted by Charles Capps: Anti-IE Stuff
With thousands of smelly Linux zealots poking and prodding every line of Microsoft code instead of showering, yes, the vulnerabilities in IE are going to be revealed and exploited. If Mozilla or any other alternative browser held 95 percent of the market, there would be more and more people trying to exploit it.
Additionally, while buffer overflow puts a user�s pc at risk it in no way endangers �the internet�. Anyone who regularly uses Windows Update, a decent virus scan, and a good firewall is protected from most of the exploits out there.
There�s no real reason to botch your own website or forums to force others into conforming to your opinions and standards, but that choice is definitely yours to make. I love flare and would visit even if you put a giant goatse in front of every page.
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Why does everybody seem to think that Microsoft won't release a patch in the coming month that fixes this alleged jpeg-handling error? It's in their best interests.
I tried Firefox for a while, three months back, but I didn't like it. Something about the bookmark-system or something, there was something that couldn't be configured or changed, and it vexed me. Yes, I was thoroughly vexed.
I know it only hurts for a while to change programs, I've done it before, this time I just didn't feel I had enough of a need to.
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I agree, the bookmark system is annoying. I still tend to use the Start/Favourites menu to launch the web sites I wish to visit; since Firefox is set as my default browser, the Favourites still open in it - yet I get an annoying message that says the file cannot be found.
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The patch is already available (it was announced with the declaration of vulnerability), and in order for the vulnerability to affect anyone the following things have to happen:
1. Someone has to make an image that exploits the flaw. None are yet known.
2. You have to go to a site or open an e-mail containing an affected .jpg image.
3. You must have failed to update your computer.
Now I'm no fan of Microsoft or its Internet Exploder either, but to declare Internet Exploder a danger to the internet in more than a joking way is silly. Declaring IE a danger to the internet because there are 'computer terrorists' out there who, in their effort to harm the most people, target the most popular software is wrong. That's on par with declaring free and open first-world societies (where terrorism is directed) wrong because they are a danger to the citizenry.
On my site as of this writing, 95.4 percent of my readers use Windows, and 79.6 percent use some form of IE. I imagine that the statistics here are similar.
I tried Opera . . . used it at work for a long time for my personal surfing. I couldn't stand all the rendering errors, compatibility problems, and unwritten plug-ins. I tried Mozilla, and had the same issues. Now I simply use SlimBrowser, which takes all of the good features like multi-tabbed browsing but does it by using the IE engine. I couldn't be happier.
Unless and until those other browsers resolve their issues, I have no intention of switching. Keep the obnoxious banner ad for Mozilla if you wish, but I hope that contributing forum members like myself don't find it so annoying that they stop coming here to participate.
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I update my computer on a regular basis, so I'd like to have a possibility to get rid of that warning.
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"the word needs to get out there..."
It's your board, but if you think you're going to get the word out there just by yelling a random anti-IE slogan at the dumb ignorant masses like some overzealous internevangelist on a crusade, you've got the wrong idea about public relations.
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Charles Capps
We appreciate your concern. It is noted and stupid.
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quote:dumb ignorant masses
That isn't exactly how I'd classify the majority of the people here at Flare.
The JPEG flaw is not the end of the world, it's the straw that broke the camel's back.
Yesterday, I spent a few hours helping a new coworker clean out his personal machine, with a few others. In the six weeks that he'd had the machine, the use of an unprotected IE had resulted in over THREE DOZEN varieties of malware being installed, including one that completely hijacks IE itself and prevents it from doing pretty much anything.
All this happened ONLY from using IE. The continued use of IE by anybody (even educated users) places their computers are a continuous risk of getting fucked over.
And yes, this IS a danger to the internet. The ability to randomly take over the computer of anyone that visits a webpage, just because they're using a certain browser, is the most incredibly scary thing I've had to think about in a very long time.
quote:poking and prodding every line of Microsoft code
They can't. MS doesn't release its code to the general public. On the other hand, Mozilla does. For five years, that code has been under public scruitiny. The process of open source allows and encourages people to find problems, and for problems to be fixed quickly by a community.
Firefox has indeed has had its share of security issues. However, the Mozilla team tends to fix things in a matter of hours instead of days, weeks, or months.
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But that warning message is annoying and borders on spam. I guess I'll have to avoid the main page in the future.
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Charles Capps
We appreciate your concern. It is noted and stupid.
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You're going to avoid the main page because a ~50 pixel tall red block is there now? As opposed to trying a browser that doesn't suck fifteen levels of ass, or just ignoring the block.
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1.) I don't want to switch to another browser as I'm quite confident with IE. Besides, I've tried Netscape and Mozilla but didn't like them.
2.) I find that block very annoying.
Best solution: Avoid main page.
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Charles Capps
We appreciate your concern. It is noted and stupid.
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Have you tried Firefox itself? While it's based on the Gecko rendering engine, the user interface has little to do with the Mozilla Suite, and therefore Netscape 6/7.
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1.) I don't want to switch to another browser as I'm quite confident with IE.
Say it with me, now:
IT'S A FREAKING BROWSER!
You click links. You push a few buttons. Occasionally you go to a bookmark or type a url. Yeah, there are preferences and bookmark editing, but both seem pretty well intuitive to me. What exactly are you doing with a browser that requires you to be confident with it?
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