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I think the Soviet Union was invaded by capitalism, McDonald's and the such, just not a military one. Plus the Soviet Union did have several different leaders, not a single one, and with the changing leadership one finally came to office that changed things. The same can't be said for Iraq.
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The point was that nobody needed to roll tanks in there or elsewhere to cause change, thus disproving Rob's knee-jerk assertion that the only way dictatorships fall is when the good ol' U! S! A! decides to teach them a thang or two about dem-aw-crah-see from the barrel of a tank. (Indeed, a hefty chunk of the dicatorships created in the past fifty years were created by America, but that's another story.)
And Mikhail Gorbachev neither wanted to nor planned to end the Soviet Union.
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When referring to Chile, do you mean the rise or fall of Pinochet? If the former, bear in mind that it was the US that put him there. They just did that particular "regime change" surreptitiously.
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Of course, I said NOTHING WHATSOEVER about hotels, or buying stuff, (or whatever it is you claim you do) but you seemed to create a theory based on that fact.
Shit. Thats exactly how you justified the war too.
Try this for a Monty Python theme: Armaments Chapter 2, verses 9-21. "Oh lord, bless this thy handgrenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy".
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You guys are basing your arguments off of what? What the media tells you? Yeah, every bomb and missile we launch hits a 6 year old girl with an IQ of 567. All our helicopters crash in the middle of a desert. Marines always die. All our bombs hit civilian buildings. According to this media as well, apparently it's only B-52s, stealth bombers doing the bombing.
Media thinks it's bad when we loose two Marines, but think nothing of the 20,000 troops we killed through bombing and the invasion forces.
Yeah, let's keep watching the news, maybe we killed another inocent civilian somewhere. Maybe a 17 year old boy with intents of throwing over Saddam himself and making Iraq the best country to live in within ten years. Or what about the other children and adults?
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"Yeah, every bomb and missile we launch hits a 6 year old girl with an IQ of 567. All our helicopters crash in the middle of a desert. Marines always die. All our bombs hit civilian buildings. According to this media as well, apparently it's only B-52s, stealth bombers doing the bombing."
Funny, the American media must be depicting a different war.
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I must see different news than other people. The news that I see glorifies the war and downplays civilian casualties. Where's this news that actually makes a point of letting us know about the bad bits (read: most) of the war?
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If you think most of the results of this war are bad (obviously as compared to the alternative), then yes, you've been watching a completely different war.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: I must see different news than other people. The news that I see glorifies the war and downplays civilian casualties. Where's this news that actually makes a point of letting us know about the bad bits (read: most) of the war?
On non-US news channels, mainly. The crazyness!
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I must admit, the US media is doing a remarkably good imitation of a state controlled media, pumping out pro-government propaganda.
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The only difference is that, other places, the gov't controls the media. Here, the gov't and media are both controlled by corporations. It only gives the impression that the media are doing what the gov't wants. Really, they're just both doing what their corporate sponsors want.
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