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What cracks me up is the way the hawks (NOT the hawks here - generally) always say "Do you know that in Iraq under Saddam, you wouldn't be able to protest in the way that the anti-war protesters do? We're invading to enable them to have that freedom of speech, so you should support us."
In other words, because we have that right, we shouldn't exercise it. Wonderful.
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Yeah, I've noticed that, too. Just about EVERY SINGLE pro-war letter in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel says "perhaps you should've gone to Iraq and lived under Saddam Hussein's rule, and see how you liked it." I recall last Sunday there were, maybe, 15 letters about the war in the editorial section, and maybe 7 sounded like that. Just about every pro-war person I've seen or heard has completely bashed anti-war protesters, calling them anti-American, anti-troop, pro-Saddam, etc. You know, that's exactly what happened under Hussein's regime--people who wanted peace were repressed.
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In the '04 election we are going to have a new ballot with the following question:
Should President G. W. Bush serve another term as President. ___ Yes!!! ____ no
Mind you, there will be an armed guard beside you if you either don't know the answer, or, would rather make a choice that is unacceptable.
Thank you for my time.
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Your point, aside from underscoring Vogon's? I wouldn't want to mistake you for an unpatriotic, anti-USA Saddam sympathizer.
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No, I was implying the opposite, just look, it's there....
You did forget to add anti-bush, which, I would have to reply, I voted the populist way, not the presidential way....
No, freedom of speech is a great thing, as long as it's not an in-your-face thing, where one can not get away form it, so bash away, have fun, and all that, but remember, regardless of anything else, what price would you put on that freedom?
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quote:Originally posted by Ritten: In the '04 election we are going to have a new ballot with the following question:
Should President G. W. Bush serve another term as President. ___ Yes!!! ____ no
Mind you, there will be an armed guard beside you if you either don't know the answer, or, would rather make a choice that is unacceptable.
And maybe Dubya will win the 2004 election with a perfect 100% of the vote, too...
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And hundreds of dead people will vote Democratic again that year.
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quote:Yeah, I've noticed that, too. Just about EVERY SINGLE pro-war letter in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel says "perhaps you should've gone to Iraq and lived under Saddam Hussein's rule, and see how you liked it." I recall last Sunday there were, maybe, 15 letters about the war in the editorial section, and maybe 7 sounded like that. Just about every pro-war person I've seen or heard has completely bashed anti-war protesters, calling them anti-American, anti-troop, pro-Saddam, etc. You know, that's exactly what happened under Hussein's regime--people who wanted peace were repressed.
You also have to realize something, it's their form of speech. Most protestors you see, are the anti-war type, you don't see people protesting the protestors. You read or wtahc them show their general detest for the anti-war protestors. That is what the freedom of speech is. You do not see them getting shot at or thrown in jail for stating what they want to say about the war. That is totally against what Saddam and other regimes do against anti-whatever against their regimes protests do.
Keep in mind though that generally you cannot fully support the troops and be fully against the war. Because remember that the troops are fighting for, and when they get captured. They can be shown pictures and videos of epople not supporting the war. Making remarks that they are anti-Americans where they themselves are American. Can a POW fully fight against them, if their home don't want to be American anymore? No. Because when captured, that's all they got left. Read about some of the former POWs of Vietnam, when they were shown photos of American soliders being beaten by the anti-war protestors, that no one cared about the soliders overseas, and that no one supported the troops. How would one feel, that for they fought for did not want that?
I am a Sailor, and if I ever became a POW, I would like to know that what I was fighting for, was supported by my nation.
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I agree with what you say. However, I think that you can be for the troops enough that you don't want to see them go into action. Are some causes worth fighting for? Yes. In some cases war is necessary and justified, such as World War II or Operation Enduring Freedom. And the liberation of Iraq is a noble cause. However, this administration had for months talked about the fact that Iraq had WMD...yet now that the war is almost over, we've had no evidence of that.
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