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I'd definitely heard of him, too, because of the embassy bombings (I think I mentioned him in the Officer's Lounge before the attacks, IIRC). However, on 9/11, when I said "it might be bin Laden," people looked at me and said "Who?"
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More to the point--and correct me if I'm wrong--but Bush had heard of him, and been specifically told that he planned to hijack some airplanes and crash them into buildings.
quote:Who Was Really In Charge? Did Bush know Cheney had given orders to down airliners on September 11? The commission staff wonders�and remains at odds with both men over alleged Saddam-Al Qaeda ties.
June 28 issue - America was under attack, and somebody had to make a decision. Dick Cheney, huddled in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center under the White House, had just urged the traveling George W. Bush not to return to Washington. The president had left Florida aboard Air Force One at 9:55 a.m. on 9/11 "with no destination at take-off," as last week's 9-11 Commission report noted. Nor had Bush given any known instructions on how to respond to the attacks. Now Cheney faced another huge decision on a morning in which every minute seemed monumental. The two airliners had already crashed into the Twin Towers, another into the Pentagon. Combat air patrols were aloft, and a military aide was asking for shoot-down authority, telling Cheney that a fourth plane was "80 miles out" from Washington. Cheney didn't flinch, the report said. "In about the time it takes a batter to decide to swing," he gave the order to shoot it down, telling others the president had "signed off on the concept" during a brief phone chat. When the plane was 60 miles out, Cheney was again informed and again he ordered: take it out.
Then Joshua Bolten, after what he described in testimony as "a quiet moment," spoke up. Bolten, the White House deputy chief of staff, asked the veep to get back in touch with the president to "confirm the engage order." Bolten was clearly subordinate to Cheney, but "he had not heard any prior conversation on the subject with the president," the 9/11 report notes. Nor did the real-time notes taken by two others in the room, Cheney's chief of staff, "Scooter" Libby�who is known for his meticulous record-keeping�or Cheney's wife, Lynne, reflect that such a phone call between Bush and Cheney occurred or that such a major decision as shooting down a U.S. airliner was discussed. Bush and Cheney later testified the president gave the order. And national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice and a military aide said they remembered a call, but gave few specifics. The report concluded "there is no documentary evidence for this call."
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If he gave the order to shoot it down though, what was'nt it done? 80 miles out is still pretty close by a jet's velocity.
Mna, I really ewant to see the movie now: more for my date's POV (she argues very sexily) than Moore's perspective though.
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We argued over America's motives at a blues bar (she says all voters only care about their pocketbooks and the moral issues in an election are at best secondary) and then we were holding hands and she had my finger in her mouth....
Man, I really like her a lot.
Plus, my birthday is next sunday and I'm hoping to spend it with her.
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No not comedy: though everyone at work probably thinks I got laid a dozen times (when in truth it was our first date and everything was pretty innocent) from my goofy smile I cant get rid of.
Man, it's the best to be with someone new and intresting.
Micheal Moore should do a film about love: it'd be a challenge to himself to edit it a way to make republicans appear responsible for all breakups.
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Well, yeah....otherwise innnocet. I lost sleep over that part though.
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As to Moore, I have'nt seen any more interviews since the Today show.
I think that one took him off guard a bit (and his website now features an article attacking Matt Lauer for the interview).
Anyone seen Moore in interviews in the past week or so?
EDIT: looks like he's going to be on CNN in an hour or so: I'll try to stay up and watch.
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ug...someone please watch this interview: I'm falling asleep.
'Night.
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