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I always thought ALL the bible stories were symbolic: not that it would detract from any moral implied.
I'm a big Aesop fan myself.
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In a few U.S. states, hasn't creationism been added to the schoold curriculum while in others evolution has been removed? It seems as though it would take more then a small minority to conduct these incredibly stupid acts.
Perhaps the catholic church accepts evolution while many groups of protestants still cling to creationism? As a side note, it is very funny to read some of the 'scientific' arguements of creationists . Unfortunatly, I can see how someone with very little knowledge of science (like most Americans, for example, about half believe that the earliest humans existed simultaneously with dinosaurs ) might actually believe them.
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quote:Originally posted by Neutrino 123: As a side note, it is very funny to read some of the 'scientific' arguements of creationists . Unfortunatly, I can see how someone with very little knowledge of science (like most Americans, for example, about half believe that the earliest humans existed simultaneously with dinosaurs ) might actually believe them.
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The knowledge that these sort of people exist is a burden on my soul. We seriously need to start a fundie reeducation service...
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I've had many infuriating conversations with a creationist that's convinced that radial carbon dating is inaccurate and that dinosauors existed at the same time as early man.
Un fucking believable.
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Oh, so have we. Read some flameboard threads of yore and you shall know of whom I speak. B)
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quote:Originally posted by Charles Capps: I take it that you're a FStDT reader.
And if you aren't, click that link, as it will provide hours of agony.
Lol. Until now I've only browsed through a few christian textbook catalogs (they've even got math ones!) when I was a homeschooler.
On carbon dating, it is certainly good for geologically recent dating (it can date things well older then early civilization), but it does actually become inaccurate on *very* old things (many millions or billions of years) due to its relativly short half-life. Plenty of other radioactive elements exist that do the job perfectly well, though.
quote:Originally posted by Neutrino 123: In a few U.S. states, hasn't creationism been added to the schoold curriculum while in others evolution has been removed? It seems as though it would take more then a small minority to conduct these incredibly stupid acts.
Never underestimate the power of the vocal minority, nore their influence over people who just don't think it's worth arguing with them.
quote:Perhaps the catholic church accepts evolution while many groups of protestants still cling to creationism?
Considering that every Catholic person here seems to have been taught that the story of creation was symbolic and metaphorical, I think we can assume that the Catholic Church's official position is that "lots of the bible isn't literal". I know that will make it harder for Jason to make his "ALL CHRISTIANS ARE SHIT AND EVIL!" arguments, but what can we do?
What actual subset of Christianity is it that the American "religious right" belong to? I am guessing that most are God's Own Party members (which I think is what GOP stands for), but that's a political party, not a religious denomination. Are they protestants, or something else?
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Bush is Methodist. Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell...most of the conservatives are Protestants. Yes, we have Catholics who are calling for things like all people who are pro-choice to be denied Communion, but they are not as vocal as the Protestant right. We have Catholic politicians that are Democrats, though--John Kerry and the governor of my state (Wisconsin) for one.
Remember...the Puritans founded our country. The Catholics (many of them Irish) were considered in the same league as Jews and blacks...hence the fact that the KKK hates Catholics as much those two groups. So the majority of the people you might call evangelists preaching on TV as well as supporting President Bush are Protestant.
Well, no. The Puritans you're talking about settled Plymouth and Massachusetts Bay, but that's about it. There were all sorts of denominations all up and down the colonies. But, yes, they were mainly Protestants.
By the way, Falwell and Robertson are both Southern Baptists.
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