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An Architect, a Structural Engineer, and a Civil Engineer were debating about the nature of God. The Architect says "See how God created the human body with symmetry and gracefulness and functionality? God MUST be an Architect". The Structural Engineer says "See how the bones of the human body provide it with strength and yet flexibility of motion. God MUST be a Structural Engineer". There is a pause, then the Civil Engineer says" God is DEFINITELY a Civil Engineer......who else would run a waste disposal line through a perfectly good recreation area?"
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Daniel Butler
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This is heavier than a fat bitch's period. I'm out...
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Lee's mention of that TV commercial reminded me of this art installation. (The first one, anyway. Following the link to it directly crashed Firefox.)
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I need to explain that people are guided by their (religious) beliefs? Everyone is, (yes, I put religious in parenthese(sp?) this time) they form part of your character/personality.
How different would Omega be without his solid foundation in his religion? Having a foundation that is shakier could make him more witty or an addict or both. A person elected to a governing position will be guided by their beliefs, which I grant are ever changing, except for maybe the core values.
I guess in the way I am using 'religious values' you could put 'moral values'. While a believer and non believer may find murder wrong it comes from different value systems, as does the differing versions of what is acceptable and what is not between all groups/people.
Now we could go off on the tangent of the theories of personality and the dozen plus ways to measure and anylize it, but that would really be goofed up talking over all of that, since not even a decent number of the researches can choose one that works for everyone/all cases. So my answer has to be vague, as I can not hope to pick a theory when they can not either.
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"I guess in the way I am using 'religious values' you could put 'moral values'."
And the way you use "blue", one could say "green"? That was the whole point, wasn't it? You were claiming that everyone is guided by religious beliefs, but some people don't have them. If you change "religious beliefs" to something else, it changes your assertion completely.
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Everyone is guided by axiomatic beliefs, which are by definition inarguable. Your axiomatic belief that God doesn't exist is no better or worse, from a logical standpoint, than mine that He does, because logic can't be used against axioms in a vacuum. If you take all a person's axioms at once you might could show that the axioms themselves are contradictory. (And that's only if one of the axioms is non-contradiction.) One way of going about this is showing that, if you assume certain things about reality, one set of axioms is better than another if it matches reality and the other doesn't.
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Daniel Butler
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And an infinite God would not fit in a finite universe, hence the axiom doesn't fit reality. Wait shit, I said I was done talking about this. NOW I'm done talking about this!!
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Only because you've defined your terms so. God, by definition of a transcendent being, has no need to fit inside the universe.
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Daniel Butler
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Then how would he affect things *in* the universe? Aw crap I give up, I'll discuss, I'll discuss....
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