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Shik
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Gonk is almighty. Gonk is merciful. Gonk is just. Gonk is all-loving. Gonk is all-knowing. Gonk is all-seeing. Gonk is the alpha and the omega. Gonk is magnanimous to his foes and generous to his friends. OBEY GONK!

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Mars Needs Women
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Never!

I refuse to worship your false god! I declare jihad on Gonk!

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Shik
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Again, Gonk is magnanimous to his foes and generous to his friends.

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I spit on Gonk, R5 is my lord and savior!
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Shik
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Ahhhh...R5ism. Yes, we know of that sect. Again, like Gonk himself, we Gonkians are still magnanimous.

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Jason Abbadon
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That's because Gonk only has one input socket.

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Shik
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I should've totally gone the Cerrano route with my comment.

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TSN
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Personally, I prefer a polytheistic approach of worshipping those little toaster droids.
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Jason Abbadon
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Yeah, but then you'll have someone make a TV show about how the pantheon of droids was really a computer virus useing them as hosts or something...

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Lee
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And they originally came from the planet Zeist!

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bX
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Immortal truth is not subjective. Omega is right: there can be only one.

I really have no problem with elected officials having strong beliefs. I also think it's unrealistic to expect them to be able to completely compartmentalize the influence of those strong beliefs. Where I take issue is when those beliefs come directly into conflict with the precepts of our government. That the founding fathers were at least nominally Christian I think speaks volumes that they were able to set aside their personal beliefs and promise freedom of relgion in the offing of that Bill of Rights thingy.

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The smartest thing said so far: placing your job over religion.
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Omega
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quote:
I really have no problem with elected officials having strong beliefs. I also think it's unrealistic to expect them to be able to completely compartmentalize the influence of those strong beliefs. Where I take issue is when those beliefs come directly into conflict with the precepts of our government. That the founding fathers were at least nominally Christian I think speaks volumes that they were able to set aside their personal beliefs and promise freedom of relgion in the offing of that Bill of Rights thingy.
I think you have it backwards. Christianity's intended nature is that it pervades every aspect of your life. It can't be compartmentalized. You can't just say "I'm a Christian except when I'm acting as a government official." You have to be the government official God would want you to be, whatever that means, and Christianity does not advocate forcing anyone outside the faith to do anything. The founding fathers didn't put aside their faith in order to promise freedom of religion; their faith REQUIRED them to promise freedom of religion.
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That may be your view of modern Christianity. But that's not exactly how it was typically practiced back then. Or, really, at any point in the first 1900 years or so of its existence.
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
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I really have no problem with elected officials having strong beliefs. I also think it's unrealistic to expect them to be able to completely compartmentalize the influence of those strong beliefs. Where I take issue is when those beliefs come directly into conflict with the precepts of our government. That the founding fathers were at least nominally Christian I think speaks volumes that they were able to set aside their personal beliefs and promise freedom of relgion in the offing of that Bill of Rights thingy.
I think you have it backwards. Christianity's intended nature is that it pervades every aspect of your life. It can't be compartmentalized. You can't just say "I'm a Christian except when I'm acting as a government official." You have to be the government official God would want you to be, whatever that means, and Christianity does not advocate forcing anyone outside the faith to do anything. The founding fathers didn't put aside their faith in order to promise freedom of religion; their faith REQUIRED them to promise freedom of religion.
It is that way of thinking that has prevented gays from getting married and allowed institutions like the FCC to curtail our freedoms like freedom of speech. Some Senators and Representatives feel that their faith tells them to commit these acts which impose on the rights of others.
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