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Omega
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Well, since he apparently wants to free teachers from the stifiling bureaucracies that they have to deal with, I'd say that's a pretty darned good thing. Any elimination of bureaucracies is generally a good thing. Which, BTW, is what Newt was refering to with the "wither on the vine" speech: the Medicare burueaucracy, not medicare itself. Just so you know.

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First of Two
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I'd have to agree. I have a bit of perspective on this, since both my parents recently retired after 30+ years of teaching, EACH, and I've had to endure ALL the stories. Teachers have to put up with a LOT of government-and-legal-mandated CRAP along with the regular job... of course, so do a lot of other people. This, I'd wager, was the point that GW. was trying to make. That people could do their jobs more efficiently with less government intrusion, rather than more. Not that ALL intrusion is bad.. I still agree with integration etc, But.. do we really need a national regulation on the exact square inchage of student's desktops?

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TSN
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Can't we just agree that Gore and Bush are both morons, and leave it at that? :-)

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Jeff Raven
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Only if you agree that Bush is less of a moron than Gore...

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TSN
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No, I'd say they're both equally moronic... :-)

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First of Two
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Yeah. Except that Gore is a compulsive liar, too.

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Diane
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Math and science, my butt.

Speaking of beauracracies, Jay, did you read that LA Times Magazine article about how Steve Sample took 100 million in donations out of UCLA's pocket?

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Teelie
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Anyone in politics is moronic IMO. Who would want to go into that field anyhow?

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Jay the Obscure
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I still don't see much in this thread about Bush and policy on education.

If he means eliminating rules in the schools to help children learn better... well almost Hippy-esk of him. George "Moonbean" Bush.

Ziyal:
No I didn't see that, but I can pull it up and take a look at it...it's very hard for me to think of the Magazine as doing actual news...it's so fluff oriented.

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Diane
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It was the one from two weeks ago. Front page even. Of course, it wasn't only about THAT. It was mostly about Steve Sample and his track record after 10 years at USC.

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http://www.angelfire.com/journal/gooshi/contents.html

Democrat presidential candidate Al Gore defended his growing reputation for falsehoods during an appearance on the "Larry King Live" program.

He told the host Thursday night, "In a campaign, you know, if you get a fact wrong, all of a sudden you are accused of committing some horrible offense."

Getting facts "wrong?" un-fucking-believable. Oops, I can't remember my own life.


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Jeff Raven
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Jay, I think what he's talking about isnot removing all rules from schools, but just removing federal rules and regulations that are restrictive to teachers and other educators. This will allow them to set up their own rules, giving control to those who have to teach, and not some bureaucracy some thousand miles away.

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Omega
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Freeing the school from rules is completely different from freeing the students therein from rules.

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Jay the Obscure
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Ok, fine...maybe Dubya just needs to understand that he needs to get into specifics when he talks. Rather than those feel good generalities.

Good, then perhaps Jeff, Omega or anyone else could mention the rules and regulations he intends to "free" the wee ones from so that they can be good little students?

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Curry Monster
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What rules and regulations do you want to free teachers from? We need specifics

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