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TSN
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Logic is foreign to me?! That's too funny even to respond to... *LOL*

Anyway, do you realize that your entire arguement is based on "Well, Greek isn't English, therefore, in Greek, the sentence might mean what I want it to..."? Maybe you should do some research and determine what the sentence really does mean, rather than saying "I'm going to assume it means what pleases me, until someone proves otherwise. Then I'll keep believing it, anyway."

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Omega
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Anyway, do you realize that your entire arguement is based on "Well, Greek isn't English, therefore, in Greek, the sentence might mean what I want it to..."?

Of course I realize that. It's a perfectly good argument. "This sentence can mean "X". "X" is consistant with all other available information. Thus, there is no contradiction between the sentence in question and all other available information." Clear enough?

Maybe you should do some research and determine what the sentence really does mean

And maybe you should do some research and determine what the basic english word "ambiguous" means. It's impossible to know what certain sentences in Latin and Greek REALLY mean, by themselves. I'm sure the same applies to any other language. This sentence is one of them. Thus, your suggestion is meaningless.

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"Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..."
-Thomas Jefferson


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TSN
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So, again, you claim that, since you can't know w/ absolute certainty what the author was thinking, you're just going to assume the passage means whatever you want it to mean. That's not a valid method of interpretation.

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Omega
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since you can't know w/ absolute certainty what the author was thinking, you're just going to assume the passage means whatever you want it to mean.

No, that's NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying that YOU can't do that. A contradiction is when two pieces of evidence flatly contradict each other, and there is no possible resolution. I am pointing out that, since you can not know with ANY degree of certainty, what the author of that one sentence meant, you can not assume that the one meaning that contradicts other sources is the correct one.

It's only a contradiction if you're dealing with the only possible interpretations.

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"Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..."
-Thomas Jefferson


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First of Two
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If there's a plane crash, and one report says 250 people died, and one report says 260 people died, those reports are contradictory, in that they are two statements on the same subject which do not agree.

However, it would probably be more accurate to say that the reports CONFLICT.

On the other hand,
"Thou shalt not committ murder"
and
"Go into this town and mercilessly massacre everybody there, including children"

are contradictory by implication.

And, of course, literal interpretations of "The Four corners of the Earth" and "The Sun stood still in the sky" are CONTRARY to geography and heliocentrism, respectively.

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TSN
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'Course, if the bible said 250 and 260 people died, Omega would just say that the "250" didn't count a few people, and that it's technically correct anyway because, if 260 people died, then 250 people did die; there are just ten more that died also.

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Those other ten were the boring folks.....

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