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Well, considering the guy that did that didn't win this time, I doubt anyone else would with those tactics, either.
------------------ "Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..." -Thomas Jefferson
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No, the person in question only had the FL supreme court judges on his side. His opponent, however, won by meeting all constitutional requirements.
------------------ "Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..." -Thomas Jefferson
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Methinks that when all is said and done, if a FL recount DOES go through, IF the pre-election rules are followed, Gore will be found to have lost anyway.
I don't know if we have any people online here from FL, but I've spoken to three Floridians, and they all tell the same story (even the Democrat): Before the election, ads were inserted in newspapers reminding people that hanging, dimpled, and pregnant chads would NOT be counted, so that if they wanted their votes to count, they should be SURE to poke their ballots thoroughly.
They also tell me that at THEIR polling places, everyone who got a ballot also got a similar reminder, that unpunched, dimpled, pregnant, etc. ballots would NOT be counted.
I'm also waiting for the FL folks to invalidate the 300+ democratic votes that were cast by ineligible felons, and the several thousand that were cast by unregistered immigrants.
IMHO, that's the reason talk of an independent recount has died down rather quickly.
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QWs from Florida.... I know that here in Michigan when one goes to vote thay have got to have their name on the print out, if it's not there you don't vote. Simply showing a form of ID is not good enough, unless the ID and the list match.
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Of course. This would be blindingly obvious, if everyone bothered to actually think about it. I seem to recall hearing about some problems with that in LA, but I'm not quite sure where I read that. Anyway, supposedly, the Democrats would bus people around from once precinct to the next, saying, "Hey, I just moved here and I'm not on your roll yet. Can I vote anyway?"
------------------ "Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..." -Thomas Jefferson
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Voter fraud since 1828...it's a good motto don't ya think?
I was asked for my id and checked off a list last time I voted in the Los Angeles area.
Then again, I did see a bus load of homeless people being taken from poll to poll and emptied so they could exchange their vote for a draught of whiskey.
I know it would be silly to ask where that bit of conjecture came from.
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You claim there are no lasting negative effects on the environment from mankind? Oh boy. Lets throw a few ideas about shall we?
Plastic & chemical pollutants killing of animals & plants
Overuse of non-renewable natural resources
Air pollution from burning coal & petrolium
Nuclear waste
Now, the above have been backed by a plethora of reputable scientists. I know Rush has some scientist that claims all the others are wrong. But on the up side, if you'd just open your eyes and look about you'd see Rush is wrong.
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When I was a deer hunter I did a 'mercy' killing on a deer with a plastic ring on it's front left leg, crippling it. So, out in the middle of Michigans deep woods are these plastic rings, and I am wondering from where they came....
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You'll notice I said "far-reaching." Nuclear waste is an extremely localized problem. Far more localized than the air polution in cities. Yeah, there are some small areas where there are problems, but the vast majority of the world is still in good shape. When was the last time you heard of someone in the middle of your Outback getting sick from air pollution?
------------------ "Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..." -Thomas Jefferson
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On the other hand, when was the last time you heard of someone not getting sick in Los Angeles?
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Yes, there are areas with bad air pollution. Yes, there are areas with higher levels of radioactivity than are usually found. But these areas are EXTREMELY SMALL. Thus my statement of their being no far-reaching man-made environmental problem stands.
------------------ "Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..." -Thomas Jefferson
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Yeah, why worry about the enviornment when the problems are so small? Even utilizing that thought, remember that small problems lead to big ones.
------------------ Star Trek Gamma Quadrant Average Rated 6.83 out of 10 Smileys by Fabrux *** "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier ... just as long as I'm the dictator." - George "Dubya" Bush, Dec 18, 2000
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Pittsburgh used to be the smog capital of the planet, what with all the coal smoke from the steel plants and such. Made LA look like a clear day in Montana.
But they cleaned it up, and it was still clean while the mills were still going.
Pittburgh's clean, and LA doesn't have steel mills... so why is LA still smoggy? It CAN'T have less clear air standard enforcement than Pittsburgh.
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