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Jay the Obscure
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LA isn't smoggy now, it just rained...this is such a beautiful city after a rain.

Don't forget about Houston though...there was a brief point over the last couple of years that it beat LA for smoggiest city.

And yes dear friends, the only reason that LA, Houston or Pittsburg PA has better air today is because of regulation.

Halleluiah and pass the unleaded!

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Omega
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Yes, a period of all of two days.

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"Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..."
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Ritten
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Okay, it has started with 2 days..... Then you'll blow off a week, then a month, etc.....

No, I've never seen little rings like that used for any kind of hunting, they might have been from the marker ballons placed by the state to note air sprayers of where to hit for the gypsy moth crap.

Along with the pollution created I think LA has a thing with its location and weather, something about the winds and the humidity helping to bottle it up, or some such thing.

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Malnurtured Snay
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The period for which LA will be smog-free?

Or the period for which regulation will work?

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I once heard that Saline could be used as an effective smog anti-agent.

Why is LA smoggy?

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Jay the Obscure
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Today as in concerned with or relating to the present time...not the time frame of the latest rainfall.

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First of Two
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The problem with descriptive terms are that they're so relative.

If you had 400 cities, and 399 were clear as a bell, and 1 had a single little puff of smoke, it could still be called "the smoggiest city out of 400."

Air quality everywhere is probably better than it's been in 50 years, especially in industrial cities. Is this due to regulation? At least partly, though it's also due to public pressure, cleaner technology, and less use of the 'dirtier' methods simply by attrition. This amount of regulation isn't a bad thing. Don't misunderstand, I don't think we should get rid of ALL regulation. there have to be SOME standards, after all.

However, we are now reaching the point of diminishing returns, where overregulation is beginning to have detrimental effects, such as increasing prices (due to the cost of complying with regulations and paperwork).

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Curry Monster
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Whoop de do. Increased prices. Anyone ever suggest to you that there are more important things than the bottom line?

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First of Two
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Well, if you mean 'bottom line' as in 'how much people on a fixed or low income (retirees, the handicapped, the poor) can take in, relative to how much it costs to keep the electricity in their home operational,' I'd have to say "NO."

For someone whos supposed to be concerned about people with low incomes, (at least, that's what the Democrats USED to claim to be about) you don't worry about rising prices? Increases in the cost of living? Isn't that an inherent philosophical contradiction?

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No. Raised taxes, paid by the more affulent, would balance that out. This would also allow tax cuts to those who would most benefit by them.

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First of Two
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Ah, yes. The old 'tax-and-spend' dodge. Or 'soak the rich,' as it's now known.

Good idea. Increase the tax on the people and businesses that generate the income for nearly everybody else in the state, thusly trashing economic growth. The closing of businesses that follows will decrease the power demand significantly, which should more than cover the increased demand put out by all the unemployed workers who will now be at home.

Brilliant!

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Jay the Obscure
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Ah, the old 'don't listen but get on your own little saop box' evasion.

Good one.

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Oh, yes, sitting. The great leveler. From the mightiest Pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?
~C. Montgomery Burns

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Omega
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Funny. I thought it was closer to the "Beat-the-snot-out-of-your-opponent's-suggestion" tactic.

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-Thomas Jefferson


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First of Two
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Clearly Jay wasn't listening.

I merely pointed out why 'tax-and-spend' is a failure as a solution, albeit in a rather sarcastic tone of voice. The logic of the argument remains solid.

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Daryus is a Democrat? I was unaware American political parties had branched out across the Pacific in such a manner.

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