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Malnurtured Snay
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::reads post::

Um. Hotel rooms have the undeniable right to rent other hotel rooms, dammit!

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Yes, I'm sure the architectural prime directive forbids us to stand in the way of inter-residential relations...

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Friday February 23:

AP Corrects Aryan-Motel Suit Story

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SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) - In a Feb. 22 story, The Associated Press erroneously described an organization called the 11th Hour Remnant Messenger as a neo-Nazi group.

According to leader R. Vincent Bertollini, the group does not consider itself neo-Nazi, although it does express anti-Semitic ideas and supports separation of the races.


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Well, I guess there's a small difference...

Jay: Mongomery? I thought Mongo was sad. Maybe he found a little banana! (or banana-shaped turnip, in my case)

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For once, Omega is right. The hotel is a private establishment. They can do whatever they want.

If you say the hotel can't be discriminatory, then you'd also have to say that the group in question also can't be discriminatory. That would mean they couldn't hold their meeting in the first place, so the question would be moot.

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"No shirt, no shoes, no service."
"We reserve the right to deny service."

Establishments make discriminations like this all the time. You don't have the 'right' to hotel space.

That's the problem with people these days; everything they decide they want is suddenly a 'right.'

These babies cry about 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom to assemble.' but NEITHER of those rights are infringed by the denial of service.

They can still speak. They just can't come indoors to do it. They still have the right to assemble. Just not on someone else's property.

To think otherwise is to accept as valid the proposition that I and a bunch of my friends can come over to your house and burp "The Star-spangled Banner" in your living room.

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Malnurtured Snay
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I would make the point that a hotel is not a private home.

Also, a hotel can NOT discriminate based on sex, religion, or race. Apparently, they can discriminate based on political opinion.

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quote:

I would make the point that a hotel is not a private home.


No, but it is still private property.

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Also, a hotel can NOT discriminate based on sex, religion, or race.

Sure they can. Why do you think there are men only/women only clubs?

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Malnurtured Snay
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Those are private organizations, Jeff. I'm fairly certain there is a difference between a country club and a hotel or motel.

I used to work for Choice Hotels for the VP of something very boring, and I am rather certain that businesses can not discrimate based upon skin color, sex, etcetra.

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I'm fairly certain there is a difference between a country club and a hotel or motel.

Not in the legal sense. The only differences would be internal policy and any contracts that might have been signed. And internal policy is not legally binding. A motel is still private property, just like a restaraunt and a country club are.

I am rather certain that businesses can not discrimate based upon skin color, sex, etcetra.

So much for your certainties. Just because your particular hotel disallowed it doesn't mean it's illegal.

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The Discrimination Act ... ? God-dammit, I'm fairly certain I'm correct here.

Wouldn't the Civil Rights Act forbid the discrimination of people based on those ... ?

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--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?


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Taken directly from the Civil Rights Act of 1964 http://longman.awl.com/nash/primarysource_29_3.htm

TITLE II
Injunctive Relief Against Discrimination in Places of Public Accommodation

Sec. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

(b) Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this title if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:

(1) any inn, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence;

KA-BLOWIE!!!

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Malnurtured Snay
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Not being a lawyer ... that does say that hotels, motels, and inns can't discriminate by race, sex, etc., right?

Maybe I'm just not used to First posting stuff helping the argument I'm trying to make

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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?



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DIVE! DIVE!

Somebody set up you the shutdown. Move zig.

Patricide. Because you've always wanted those golf clubs.


FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
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