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I thought that Transwarp was the SuperGoFast warp drive. I think Locutus let the Enterprise keep up.

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The DS9 Tech manual say that the Defiant can sustain warp 9.982 for 12 hours and warp 9 is it's cruising speed. The Borg were using the warpage in BOBW as the Enterprise was pursing them across Federation Space and that the Enterprise kept following them only for 12 hours and then dropped to impulse and the Borg kept on going at warp. The speed in Scorpion IandII I think was warp 9.9 which Voyager can easily sustain but only for a limited time ie 3 days and then drop to impulse.
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Warpage? That's a new one. Can you have gravy on the side?

The DS9TM is not good reference-material, or so I've been told.

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Getting back to the Borg Space issue for a moment, I recently saw the Voyager episode "Course:Oblivion" (I think that's the name), where the chromo duplicate of Voyager is nearing the alpha q, and I noticed there was a fairly good map of the galaxy in the astrometrics lab. If someone could get a hold of the screenshot it might make it easier to estimate the size of Borg space.

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The Voyager in Course:Obvilion was travelling @ warp 9.975+ and seemed to be covering thousands of lights years in a matter of weeks! We can say that with the modifications to it's warp drive, It didn't do EPISODES:-
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I can say that this Voyager got to within 15,000 (52,370 from Class Y planet where it was created) (2 years@our Voyager maximum warp) light years of Earth Before turning Back. And as it got closer to Our Voyager current posiston cruising along @warp 6.2(30,000+ light years from Earth)

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See, see! I told you so! Borg cubes don't have transwarp drives. Or else Janeway would have taken one already. She had lot of opportunies like the Cube in Unity, or the Scorpion 15-Cube scrapheap.

Maybe Cubes have to much mass or something to remain in a slipstream. That can also explain why the Borg also have smaller ships.

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The only problem is that the Borg rocketted away from the Enterprise right after capturing Picard at Warp 9.6. He wasn't Locutus at this time. There was no reason in the collectives mind to allow the Enterprise to keep up (they'd got what they wanted), so the only reason the Borg cube stayed at warp 9.6 is either that's it's maximum speed, or that's it most "efficient" speed.

Transwarp as in Excelsior and ParisFish is SuperGoFaster Warp drive. The Borg use Transwarp conduits, which are more like a series of mini wormholes (or hyperspace).

What is the top speed the Borg have been shown to fly at in normal warp, on screen, and in dialogue?

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I think Borg Cubes do have transwarp coils and are capable of entering transwarp. The reason Janeway didn't steal any in Scorpion ptI is that the crew didn't know where they are When Seven came aboard she had the information to say where the transwarp coils are. Borg Cubes are the Borg's frontline ships and it would be rediculous to only equip Borg Sphere's (with limited defenses)with transwarp coils. The Borg have a vast area under their control which with warp technology would take years to cross-hence transwarp.
When Voyager used the transwarp coil in Dark Frontier she was travelling @warp 9.9999+(transwarp 4) and crossed 20,000 light years in 12 hours. Borg Cubes due to their huge size are stuck towards the lower end of transwarp 5 (ie able to cross 7000 light years in a year=BOBW)(transwarp 2.5) Voyager's maximum warp allow it to cross 6000 light years in a year but this is nowhere near transwarp and plus they're would be restriction on her engines and fuel supllies Voyager was using Warp 6.2 up until Scorpion but after Borg modifications in Scorpion increased to Warp 8(even this was used only when neccesary. Voyager used warp 6.5 afterwards so it would get clear of Borg Space.

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quote:
she was travelling @warp 9.9999+(transwarp 4)

The Norway Class is a diplomatic cruiser.

The Akira Class is from 2374.

The Sovereign Class is the replacement for the Galaxy class.

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Is this just completely random information, UM, or is there a point in here somewhere?

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Yes. On both counts.

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quote:
Voyager's maximum warp allow it to cross 6000 light years in a year but this is nowhere near transwarp and plus they're would be restriction on her engines and fuel supllies Voyager was using Warp 6.2 up until Scorpion but after Borg modifications in Scorpion increased to Warp 8(even this was used only when neccesary.

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Now, now, people, let's not argue about who spelled who.

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Yes. Let us still argue over my VERY IMPORTANT POINT about why, if the Borg can do Warp 9.9999fish999, why'd they only do warp 9.6 in BoBW?

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Michael Dracon
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Because Borg CUBES don't have transwarp capability

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