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DARKSTAR
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Borg Cubes Do Have a low Transwarp cababilty.

How Come the Borg Cube in BOBW manage to cross 7000 light years in a year at standard warp 9.6?
This journey at that speed would have taken 3.5 years (hence Picard's comment's about them having a power source superioror to our own-BOBW pt 1.)

Borg Sphere's have a higher transwarp ability and can cross distances of thousands of light years in a few hours.
Voyager is small enough to cross 20,000 light years in 12 hours.
Look at the size of Lore's ship in TNG"Descent I&II" that is bigger then a standard Borg Cube and it entered Transwarp! The Enterprise crossed 60,000 light years after it in a few hours

Boo to you who think Borg Cube don't have transwarp!!


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Darkstar: Sure, but that's still no proof that Cubes do have transwarp.

Now let me thrash my own theory:
In Scorpion Harry set the scanners to look for transwarp signatures. He found 15 Cubes at about 5 lightyears or so, they overtook Voyager in mere minutes.

But they were visible in normal space...

Also the Borg have 2 types of Transwarp:
1: A corridor on a fixed location (look at the episode where Isheb is discovered as having the pathogen).
2: A drive (Spheres, and Queen's Yacht).

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::gets booed, pulls out BFG, annihilates thread::

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You will be assimilated, resistance is futile!

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Any ship with the least bit of adaptability can enter a transwarp conduit, having an independent drive is another thing.
Could the bobbie-cube have made the major part of the journey by preset conduit, dropping it a distance from the target, then used a standard drive for manouverability?

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The Enterprise never traveled 60,000 light yrs in descent, the actual figure is much smaller
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Sol System
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It's quite possible that the conduit from "Descent" was the used by the cube in BoBW.

Also, I'd go so far as to give the Borg three kinds of transwarp, though the third is a little iffy.

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Transwarp is basically just a general term for anything faster than warp, no matter how it works, isn't it?

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No. (Otherwise why co-axial warp or the quantum slipstream?)

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Yes!

Sorry I Just lost my chain of thought! The Enterprise crossed 50,000+ light years in Descent. Borg Cubes have the abilty to open transwarp conduits to get to specific locations(ie J-25 to Federation space, I think there was more then one Borg Cube there)then coast in on normal warp(however long it takes). In BOBW the fact the Borg Cube was travelling @ warp 9.6 proves nothing but the fact it was the most "efficient" speed for them to use(it wasn't like they were in a rush,it toke 8+ days to get from the border to Earth).


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But...if that was the most "efficient" speed, why were they travelling at warp 9.3 (I think) when the Enterprise first detected them? Hmm?

Where'd the 8 days figure come from? Was that Hanson saying how long ago the, er, ship I can't remember had detected a "cube shaped" ship? (Jeez, don't these Starfleet captains pay attention to anything? Starfleet had been 'slightly worried' about the Borg for over a year, and he still didn't recognise them?).

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Well, Adm. Hanson says Starfleet help is six days away when he relays the news of the recent destruction of the Lalo. After that, Picard moves to intercept and we basically lose the sense of time. The time it took Picard to intercept was not given, nor the time the Earthward trip eventually took.

One could say that the trip towards Earth must have taken 6+ days, since it was performed by the Enterprise, a Starfleet ship - and Starfleet was supposed to be capable of spanning the trip in 6 days at best. And while the E-D did have to abandon the chase very soon because she couldn't maintain the necessary high warp (probably not more than a couple of hours), eventually the ship did catch up with the Borg before they reached Earth.

BTWN, the Lalo seemed to be a freighter (at least she was on a freight run), so perhaps the captain wasn't quite as well informed about potential future threats as a warship captain might have been.

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PsyLiam
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Actually, the Enterprise gave up chase because it had just fired it's Big Blue Beam, and had to pause for repairs. It managed to catch up to the Borg because they stopped before they reached Earth.

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Gee, look, 50 of 10,000, the biggest ball of twine in the galaxy, lets take a picture of you and the boys assimilating it.


Why'd they stop?

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You know, all those ships flying about at Wolf 359 ...

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