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Timo
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"Look, 1st of 23,541, starships! Pretty starships! Can I blow them to bits? Can I? Can I?"

Why did 1st of 23,541 listen to 23,541st of 23,541? Couldn't 1st just have flown past or through them and left them perform another futile chase? I guess the Cube wanted to use Wolf 359 as fly paper, collecting all the nearby ships to that location for easy destruction so that they wouldn't bother it near Earth. But why did Starfleet help the Cube in this plan? And how did they plan on forcing the Cube out of warp? Normally these big bad alien ships that like to chase the Enterprise at warp can take a *lot* of punishment before dropping to impulse - and the Borg cube didn't even tickle when the E-D fired torps at it in "Q Who?", an incident all Starfleet tactical planning was based on.

BTW, Riker decided to fire the Big Blue Beam because his ship was on the verge of breaking down and could not have maintained the chase much longer. Worf specified this in dialogue.

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Ritten
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It's been a loooooong time since I have seen any of the eps we discuss, I really need to get ahold of my brother have get his tapes from him, he's got most of them already.

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PsyLiam
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For me, BoBW is an episode I probably know more than any other. So I can confidently say that is was Wesley, not Worf, who said that "if the Borg mantain their current speed we'll be forced to discontinue pursuit and power down in less time than it's taken for people to throw stuff at me".

I've never got how ships force each other ouyt of warp. A similar thing happens in Sacrifice of Angels. Sisko is desperate to get to DS9 as fast as possible, so he deceided to have a big fight at Impulse first, and then only warps away after he shoots the Big Impressive Cruiser. Couldn't the fleet have just warped right on past? Or are all Jem'Hadar ships faster than the Defiant? (If so, couldn't it have warped past cloaked?).

Maybe ships have to drop to Impulse when near other ships, due to supspace distortaions, or the fact that they've spend a lot of mone yon this, and we want to see it, damnit.

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Obi Juan
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I don't think the borg had transwarp conduit technology in Best of Both Worlds.

After at least a thousand years of doing the old assimilation thing, they have to be fairly efficient about quickly adapting and distributing new tech throughout the collective. So basically they assimilated a ship/race with transwarp capability sometime between BBW and Descent.

When I first saw Descent many years ago, I didn't think that the ship was a borg vessel in the first place. I always figured it was something they had to steal(note steal--not assimilate) after being cut off from the collective. This may have been because they accidently destroyed their cube in the confusion after being cut off (or else an opportunistic enemy did).

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Sol System
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Except that we know that the Borg had transwarp conduits well before BoBW thanks to "Dark Frontier", and that Lore's ship design was, if not originated by the Borg, at least in general use by them, thanks to "Scorpion".

Now, you can argue that DF yanked the rug out of everything previously stated about the Borg, and you'd be right. But, then, so did BoBW.

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Curry Monster
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Seven stated that borg transwarp is similar to slipstream. That makes it very quick. A conduit is something different again.

Why did the Borg take so long to reach the Federation after the J-25 encounter? Well they accessed the Enterprises computer and noted the relevant facts about the Federation whilst they were there. Then, they scheduled it into their existing tasks.

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9:00am: Dust
9:13am: Fix Breakfast for Collective
10:00am: Pay power bill
10:25am: Assimilate Federation
11:00am: Watch "Jerry Springer"

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Teelie
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Hey, you forgot to drop the kiddies off at school.

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Curry Monster
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Damn, do they need packed lunch. Or is the canteen open today?

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Re: Russia in WWII

"Hey, we butchered Poles! Thats OK."
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Teelie
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I think they need a packed lunch... damn what's today? I forget what their lunch schedule says.

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AndrewR
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the lunch menu says:

soup: irrelevant
sandwiches: irrelevant
snacks: irrelevant
drinks: irrelevant
dessert: chocolate mousse

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Curry Monster
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No, NO! Today is curry, I'm sure.

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"Hey, we butchered Poles! Thats OK."
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Teelie
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Ok, curry it is then. And the chocolate mousse.
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