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I personally liked the ep. It made sense, the acting was good, and the plot behind it held. At first I didn't think I would like it due to the romance thing between Janeway and the Hologram. However it was done very nicely especially with the doctor talking to Janeway about not being able to personally interact with the crew. The whole thing made sense.
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I haven't seen this ep, but I can tell you Janeway was probably saying "County Clare".
West coast, NW of Limerick and the Shannon.
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It was ok !! I think the writers wanted to get away from all the techno-babble .. and for the most part they did..
In the trailer they mentioned the Bermuda triangle... well.. I don't see the connection..
But it wasn't all that bad! - but... not one of the best either. I think that Kate Mulgrew looked great in this ep, tho'.. for once, she actually looked like a woman .. I loved her in that dress.
Harry with that hat, tho'.. he looked a little out of place.
I found the relationship with Sullivan a little weak ... They made 3 days pass so quickly, you didn't see the relationship flourish ... It seemed like they took a good story, and shrunk it down to meet the time-line! They should have had a better mix scifi and Irish History in this ep... Focus a little more on the storm.. make it more threatening, with the Fair Haven part as a good sub-plot...
This could have been a much better episode as a two-parter.
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Ya, I know that.. but ... to me that's just a reprise of the characters.. not the episode...
The next ep will be about something totally different, I'm sure (I should really go check that out). What I meant was that they should have focused a little bit more on the storm or something ... to keep us MAN-APES occupied during the romance story. (That for Tora - )
No but seriously.. Supposedly, this storm was doozy of a storm .. able to cripple ships ... it couldn't have been too threatening..cuz everyone was off to Fair Haven.
I dunno... I just feel that it could've been a little better ... could've been worst tho'.
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Gepata001: Someone mentioned above where did this Janeway/Irish connection comefrom - it came from Shannon O'Donnell - her ancestor - and with a name like that...! She is also Irish Catholic decent - see her on Conan awhile back chatting about it...
So clearly Janeway enjoying and partaking in a Period Irish holodeck program is nice continuity... If it was say... an ancient Vulcan program you'd just go wah?
Tora:- I didn't see the episode - will have to wait about 7 months - but it sounds like she said County Clare - a region/county in Ireland - and going aways back Surnames were derived from what village or place you came from or your occupation... O'Clare is basically "Of Clare".
NICE continuity Voyager - Keep it up.
*mumbles* people complain about no continuity - but then they get some and the complain... *mumbling trails off*
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What continuity? Above people are trying to explain stuff like where Neelix lived, and now you're saying that Janeway is suddenly an enthusiast about Ireland, even though it has never been a part of her character before. You don't learn stuff like the harp positioning thing unless you spend lots of time researching it, but there's never been any indication of this.
"Continuity" would involve Janeway showing further evidence of her insanity and so on, because we've seen stuff like that in the past (like with executing the Equinox crewmember). But, no, instead we're getting stories about Ireland. I hate Voyager. My favorite scene is the one in "Barge of the Dead" when the entire crew gets slaughtered.
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Yes, that's it! Any attempts at trying something new must be evil! Any attempts at reworking an old idea must be evil!
I've solved the problem with Voyager!
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Well, people seem to dislike this episode, for being a change of pace, and any episode remotely similar to one from TOS, TNG, and DS9.
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Well, like Frank said, you can't just go and introduce the fact that a character has such interests like that. I mean, if Janeway was such an Ireland fanatic, why didn't we see it before? Picard liked arcaeology; Riker liked jazz; Sisko liked baseball. All these were things established early on. I mean, if, in season seven of TNG, it was suddenly announced that Picard was a huge rock-and-roll fan, wouldn't everyone have balked at the fact that we had never seen any evidence of it before? Of course, the idea of Picard's liking rock-and-roll would have put people off, anyway, but it's just an example.
The thing is, the writers said "Hm... Janeway has an ancestor w/ an Irish name. She must know anything and everything about Ireland." I have Irish ancestors who are only five generations back, and I don't know anything about Ireland. Why should Janeway?
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But there ARE people who research anything and everything they can find about their family.
F'r instance, yesterday I discovered DE-139, Destroyer Escort USS Farquhar, launched Feb 13, 1944. Named for a relative of mine who sailed ships for the Union during the civil war and eventually rose to the rank of Rear Admiral.
The Farquhar sank the last German sub of the war during WWII.
(I also found the USS Capps.. but that's another story)
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