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I realize the TNGTM is not a novel. However, I also wouldn't consider it along the same lines as say, the Encyclopedia or the Chronology, which relate information directly from the series.
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Frank, networks shows have never been anything but episodic, aside from those soap opera things. They're not going to start because you want things to all have a continuing plot-line.
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Yes, I know what the TM is for real... and in the fictional universe... and you know what? both those things change. The directions people decide to take change. LIFE changes. There's no reason to be upset at the writers for this (hell, the writers have changed, too!)
I suppose it's a good thing the future is fluid.. time travel episodes would be a lot less fun if it wasn't.
*Looks at some of the old space shuttle designs from the tech manuals back a few decades before they built one.* Doesn't look much like the modern one, does it?
How can you hold fiction to higher standards than real life?
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Frank: So... Then you agree?
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First of Two, maybe it's just me, but I'm not quite shure what you are getting at. In fact, I think we may actually be in agreement. I agree, the TM is not set in stone - that's my argument. It isn't definitive, so people should not be upset when the writers decide that it is not definitive as well.
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Okay, apparently I'm not quite getting my point across. If the writers want to say "Well, the Nova name was taken by the TNGTM, but we want to use it, so let's say maybe the name got reassigned at some point." But what probably happened was more like:
"What should we call the ship?" "Hm... 'Nova' is a nice name..." "Y'know, it seems like that one's been used somewhere..." "Oh, who cares? Just use it hand let the <contempt=dripping>fans</contempt> figure it out if they don't like it..."
I'm not saying that this one incident is a particular problem. But it's a symptom of a larger problem, that being the fact that the people in charge really don't seem to care much about making a TV show. They just want to make money.
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Okay, I can appreciate that. However, I have a question. This is an honest question, not a retort. Do you think that could be because VGR is tied to a network, whereas the others (namely, TNG and DS9) were not? By not being tied to a network, I bet TNG and DS9 people had the 'freedom' to take time on their work a little bit more than the VGR people do. Does that make sense?
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I don't know anything about the television industry, so I have no idea what difference that makes.
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I've never been one to defend Frank, and I sure wont start now, but I'll take Babylon-5 over any of the shows Sol mentioned. I watch some X-Files, I liked NE,Twilight Zone and Twin Peaks. Never cared much for the others.
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Well, so as to avoid this turning into a big shouting match, I won't go into why I think we can say that the shows I mentioned are quantifiably better. Diffrent strokes, as that tacky old show proclaimed.
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*looks quizzically at Sol* "What you talkin' 'bout, Simon?" :-)
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Guess who's back, and with a new Xmas PC lounging around at home?
I'm the only one allowed to bash mah nahive lahnd. *gets hitting stick, walks outside and starts walloping the tarmac*
>>Diverting main power to Off-Topic Mode< I've been up since 4.20am in order to queue for a J1 visa so's I can work in the Dark Side of the Gene Pool, ie the US (Boston specifically). Anyone know what the job prospects are like for foreign students around the Northside of yer east coast? Oh, and do any websites exist that actually advertise jobs that don't require a)citizenship, and b)a two-year contract? AAAAA, as you all well know.
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From a few pics I saw in ST Monthly, they got the costuming terribly wrong for Kim + Paris, but two of the shop-signs I saw, 'Failte' (Welcome) and 'Buisteara' (Butchers) were right, IIRC.
Oh, and Tom: you were right back on page1 - she probably did say County Clare. Only thing is, O'Donnell is an Ulster name, and Clare is in the arse-end of the country, down in Munster.
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