Anyone else find the part about Daniels learning time travel specifics in high school alarming? Considering how easily you can royally screw up the timeline if you're not careful, isn't that like giving high school students nowadays a course on building H-bombs?
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Well, it would make sense, IF the temporal police had shielding, and thus could undo any changes. Which they should have. But didn't. Perhaps the temporal shielding only withstands temporal events of a certain magnitude, and an eight-century explosion was too much for them to handle? And the publicly available time travel devices aren't powerful enough to reach back that far?
Or maybe "high school" has a different definition in 1100 years, and he was actually thirty and well-trained at the time...
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Daniels was not real specific in his description. Maybe the only high schoolers who had access to the temporal studies classroom were those on the Super Wesley Crusher From the 31st Century advanced placement with honors transcript. And, for some protection, maybe they use something similar to the second brake pedal used in drivers' education vehicles.
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quote: That is to say, we are to believe that the mission continues with T'Pol and Phlox remaining aboard thanks to an agreement between Starfleet and the Vulcans. However, they didn't say as much in the episode. We're to assume it. I think. Definitely should have been clearer.
Why bother??? Sci-fi shows these days are getting more intellectual...um...intullectu...they are getting smarter.
Seriously, they make you think. And that's good in any kind of program. Watching TV isn't about staring at the screen watching the "pretty visual effects" and guessing the entire plot 10 minutes into the program! Personally, I like it when they keep you guessing.
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quote:Originally posted by Woodside Kid: Anyone else find the part about Daniels learning time travel specifics in high school alarming? Considering how easily you can royally screw up the timeline if you're not careful, isn't that like giving high school students nowadays a course on building H-bombs?
I don't know which high school or when you went to high school--- but I learned who Einstein was in 2nd grade, I had the history of the A-Bomb by 5th... by 7th grade I was not only capable of learning about the Manhattan project but I would also have been able to grasp some of the science they were using at the time. Now that I'm in 12th grade, I can watch a PBS special on the Manhattan project and never get lost.
As the massive stockpiles of nuclear weapons that the US and USSR built during the cold war testifies to... building an H-bomb is not that hard, the hard part was drudging through the theoretical stuff and then getting your hands on certain materials [Uranium 238 for example was a great worry during the Manhattan project].
Now having said all that, it is quite a bit impossible to gather all the pieces to build an H-bomb. The Uranium [or if you want a really big boom, Plutonium] alone requires a great amount of facilities to produce. This is what prevents a high schooler who knows about the H-bomb and pretty much all of it's particulars [I don't, just in case you got that impression] from building one.
--- However, your point about Daniels was taken. I do agree that it was odd they would give him knowledge like that when he had the ability to act upon it, especially with something as important as the timeline at risk. [The way he said it also made it seem that he scared the crap out of a few people in the past with that giant floating head deal.] Perhaps he didn't have the ability to change the timeline at all, maybe we just read into it too much and there was something that prevented such damage?
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Seven year old kids are doing calculus in the Star Trek universe. Theoretical temporal mechanics, is, after all, all math, and it shouldn't be too hard for high school students. Perhaps it is even considered to be part of a well-rounded education, much like physics is today.
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This episode, specifically the temporal cold war stuff, gave me a real early X-Files vibe. Consider, we still have no idea whether that planet in the future was Earth, or "Earth as we know it." The absence of Mr. Hogan's fuzzy visage is never explained. Now, these are all the things that made me eagerly anticpate the next episode of The X-Files in, say, 1995. But they were also the things that made me unhappy and unsatisfied in 2001. So, I don't know, I guess what I'm saying is that we should maybe get a little in the way of facts here. Not many, and not at all at once, to be sure. But, you know, maybe something. This season. Yes.
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Hogan? Do you mean that the Stalag 13 gang is behind the Temporal Cold War?
...I suppose you're going to say now that you meant "Mr. Horan," the actor who plays Future Guy.
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Well, basically we as the unintelligent, moronic average Star Trek viewer (at least according to TPTB), must logically take everything that Daniels says at face value. Therefore:
1. The planet Daniels took Archer was the 31st century Earth.
2. This Earth was not the same Earth Daniels originated from, but rather the result of his tampering with the timeline.
3. This new 31st century Earth has been basically unchanged since the 22nd century; that is, destroyed.
4. This destruction took place after 2151, but before the founding of the Federation in 2161. It is unclear who destroyed Earth, but from what we know, my guess would be the Romulans, as I'm guessing that FutureGuy is a Romulan. We don't know why FG couldn't be contacted, but it could possibly go along with the changed timeline. It is also possible that if he IS a Romulan, then the changed timeline prevented him from needing to muck about in the 22nd century timeline in the first place, which was why Silik couldn't contact him. So in essence, Daniels unwittingly did FG's work for him.
5. We don't know if this Earth reverted back to "normal" once Archer returned to the 22nd century, but I'm pretty sure it did. We also don't know if Silik will be contacted by FG again, especially since he's been captured.
6. It's also possible that everything I've said here is totally wrong.
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It could be the Romulans by the way that Archer was told not to read the book about the Romulans...
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