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AndrewR
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What the fuck has this thread turned into!?! Sheesh, I hope I'm not being included in the 'whining' - cause I've just been trying to piece together in my mind from the verbal discriptions of the ships as to what they might look like - AND I post a bizarre picture from ATTS, and another mystery was solved! What the HELL no. 1 and no. 2 were!

So again, what do we have to do to have a look at these pics? Is it possible they are put on the web, and if we have to PM/E-mail then we can just get the URL - I'm assuming that the size of the pics are quite large - from other posts.

HOW do you PM again - never used it.

Andrew

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Mark Nguyen
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The PM function is under the "My Profile" button.

And for what it's worth, I believe that at least some of the misunderstanding/overreaction about all this has been cleared up. When it has been resolved to peoples' satisfaction, I recommend closing the thread and starting another one with level heads.

Mark

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BTW, just to clarify things about the three-naceller: Even though it has no name or registry, I know that Drexler drew the ship upside-down. The top half of the saucer is actually from the Enterprise-B kit, while the bottom half of the saucer is the standard Excelsior. So the extra impulse engines are where the Excelsior pylons are, making the Connie pylons on the bottom.

Also, the Raging Queen got its namesake from a Saturday Night Live skit, with John Belushi as pirate Captain Ned. "Raging Queen" was the name of his pirate vessel.

As far as I know, the ship was never called or relabeled the Curry, only that the nacelles & pylons were switched w/ more believable looking ones for filming. So "Curry" & the erroneous registry should be stricken from anybody's shiplists.

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Well I only posted once about the pics, and i never thought I was rude about. I politely asked if Drexler had given his okay for distribution. Still, if i did come off as rude, then I also ask for forgiveness. I would still like to see these pics. I don't think my email address appears in my profile, so whoever has them and can send them to me at [email protected], I would be grateful.

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Shik
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Didn't the Curry name & number come from Okuda?

EDIT: I know what the "small pylons" on the Raging Queen are. They're the corrugated bands on the AMT Danube-class model. Also, on the Yeager, the nacelles are actually "inside-out." The outer grills are really the connection points for the the Voyager pylons.

[ March 11, 2002, 21:07: Message edited by: Shik ]

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[ March 11, 2002, 21:50: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]

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Spike
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quote:
As far as I know, the ship was never called or relabeled the Curry, only that the nacelles & pylons were switched w/ more believable looking ones for filming. So "Curry" & the erroneous registry should be stricken from anybody's shiplists.
Did you ask Drexler about the Genesis/Centaur too?

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Amasov Prime
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Sorry, Dukhat. And thanks for your opinion on this. I think it really has gone too far.

I'll leave my signature changed for the next few days until change it to something *normal*.

[ March 12, 2002, 03:05: Message edited by: Cpt. Kyle Amasov ]

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Mail me, and I'll point you in the right direction.

[email protected]

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^^^^

Did so.

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Harry
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Funny what a < font size="7" > tag can do [Wink] .

But like Star Trek is just a TV show, this forum is just a forum. Our whining here is nothing compared to real-world whining [Smile]

But anyway, over with the profound ethical and moral posts, and on to our usual nonsensical Trek debates, I say.

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My only comment so far in this topic is to point out that the secondary hull of the Elkins is an F-14, not an A-Wing.

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My thoughts...

Three-Nacelled Excelsior Variant/No Name or Rego

The model is a bit better than the schematics, IMO. It reminds of some sort of a tug or tender. Imagine a cargo pod attached to the aft greeblies. This ship is not that outrageously ugly, though.
The three nacelles are in the same config as the Niagara, and it looks reasonably balanced.

Constitution Variant/ No Name or Rego

Nothing too terribly wrong with this. There probably exists something similar in fandom?

Shelley/Raging Queen NCC-42285

The Constitution nacelles make the ship look really weird. We could assume that they are 'actually' custom nacelles, having nothing in common with the Connie.
How is the saucer connected with the rest? I can't see it!

Centaur/ U.S.S. Illegible NCC-42043

I think I like this ship. Are those any nacelles we know of? Constellation perhaps? I like the Constellation-ish details. Perhaps this ship was something of a low budget-Constellation?

Intrepid Meets A-Wing/ U.S.S. Elkins NCC-74121 (I think)

Really awkward ship, this. It does look like it's a sister ship to the Yeager class (and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the ships we thought were the Yeager, were this thing), and is just as dificult to rationalize. Why would there be Constitution class nacelles on this ship? And why a seemingly brand new Intrepid saucer?

U.S.S. Yeager NCC-65674

Another really strange ship. The blue finish is nice, but hardly makes it any better [Smile] .

Perhaps the Elkins and Yeager are some sort of Intrepid prototypes? Or they really must be Starfleet kitbashes, although their arses have been ripped from unknown ships [Smile]

Mark, thank you very much for this! And thanks to Drexler to, for putting up with us. Oh yeah, and thanks to Shik, for beating some sense in this truly historical thread [Smile]

But what was that about the ASDB? [Wink]

(edit: teh fooking typos)

[ March 12, 2002, 06:46: Message edited by: Harry ]

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AndrewR
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So to just summarise what pictures are new

The Intrepid/A-wing (Int/Connie from DS9TM)
The Yeager (Intrepid/Maquis combo)
The Raging Queen (poss. the same as the shelly/curry)
The Centaur
The wierd double Excelsior saucer/three naceller

so... no "Connie with 1? Nacelle", ?Klingon? (hey it LOOKS Klingon to me) Tug?

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Spike
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There were schematics of the tug in the last Fact Files issue.

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