"(The only way it was ever suggested was the 2161 founding date on the Starfleet Academy banner from "The First Duty" [TNG], and all that *really* tells us is that '61 was the year in which the ACADEMY was established, not necessarily Starfleet itself.)"
Troi mentioned that the Federation was founded in 2161 (two's one's and six's were 'wild' in their game of poker on Federation Day.
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Well, I think they're different because they're controlled by two different organizations: United Earth government and United Federation of Planets. It also seems that UFP Starfleet got a new charter. ESF is clearly the predecessor but nevertheless much different than UFP SF (USS prefix, new directions, ships from other founding members, new class/registry-scheme,...).
BTW: Doesn't the E-D's dedicaton plaque say "Fifth starship to bear the name"? It seems that Earth Starfleet vessels are not included.
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The thing that suggests to me that English is the main/official language is the names of ships written on the hulls. Enterprise and Constitution can be excused as they are like Yamato, named after real ships, but Defiant, Valiant, Ambassador, Concord, Dauntless, Destiny, Fearless, Freedom, Galaxy, Nebula, etc are all English words, which are clearly painted in Roman characters on the hulls of Starfleet ships.
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Well no shit, if the United States had it their way every country would be spelling things in English, and at that, spelling them wrong...to think..."Endeavor"!
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quote:Which means proper English and not American English is the official language!!!
It just means that the ship was named after the HMS Endeavour.
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They all say loo-tenant, and not l'tenant or lef-tenant, which would suggest that they speak American English.
However, it is possible they speak with American English and spell with "real" English. I doubt Starfleet would paint on a ship a word that most humans would think was a spelling mistake, previous ship named that or not.
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just like they painted the space shuttle with what americans would perceive as a spelling mistake? or the concorde? i think its perfectly plausible, its being done to specifically honor a past vessel.. and many vessel names are old enough to have lost all meaning..
maybe they all speak interlac or galacta, and the words and writing are simply translated into American English by the universal translator for our viewing?
BTW, i hate this theory, but it is a consideration.
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In the DS9 episode with the small runabout, they are sitting next to the registration number and desrribe the 0 of 74205 as "a big black circle", or something similar. If the numbers are how they appear to be to us, its a safe bet the letters are too.
Also, the Endeavour Shuttle would be read as normal by British people, and Concorde by French people. For "international" projects, like these really are, this is acceptable. I can't imagine the US Navy calling a ship "Endeavour" or "Honour". Endeavour in Star Trek would be a mistake to absolutely everyone if American spelling is standard.
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not necessarily.. the number system has changed independantly from the letter system like, a MXLVII times!.. so the letters could have changed completely or the language under them could have, leaving the numbers the same.. we could go over this .
BTW i still hate this theory, im just playing devils advocate.
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