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The starship name on the USS Tsiolkovsky's dedication plaque is written in Cyrillic characters. If the universal translator translates into English so we can read the letters from the Vulcan Standard Logical Alphabet or something, it would have translated that.
(I'm quite pleased with myself for that )
(BTW, I now have ridiculous images of the USS Enterprise NCC-MDCCI-D stuck in my head)
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quote:Originally posted by Phoenix: However, it is possible they speak with American English and spell with "real" English. I doubt Starfleet would paint on a ship a word that most humans would think was a spelling mistake, previous ship named that or not.
*cough*BRATTAIN*cough*JENOLAN*cough*
Excuse me.
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"The starship name on the USS Tsiolkovsky's dedication plaque is written in Cyrillic characters. If the universal translator translates into English so we can read the letters from the Vulcan Standard Logical Alphabet or something, it would have translated that."
We also don't always get translations of alien words. Klingon, especially. And any alien computer interface is always un-translated. Presumably, we only get translations of "Federation Standard" or whatever (except in special cases like when aliens are tlaking to each other, and we need to hear what they're saying), and the dedication plaque was actually written w/ Cyrillic letters.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: And any alien computer interface is always un-translated.
Surely the fact thay alien letters are never translated shows that the magical universal translator just can't do that.
(And the Starfleet Bureau of Painting Things on Ships must be run by idiots. They misspelt the two MM mentioned, wrote NCC-1305-E on the Yamato (presumably as a joke (and then had to change it back when the Captain noticed)), and made a complete mess of the USS Nash. Perhaps one of these "jokers" served on the original NCC-59650 Prometheus (Norway Class perhaps) and decided to paint that number on the new one as a "tribute".)
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Yes the NX looks better, but not mass producable. I don't think SF has the capability of mass producing the NX. the D is more feasable, plus i would put money down on the D rolling on the NX
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If they do, I don't think they should show her like we know her. I mean keep the basic shape, but the overall design looks to primitive even in today's standards.
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quote: They all say loo-tenant, and not l'tenant or lef-tenant, which would suggest that they speak American English.
Probably because they're mostly American .
Also I'm personally fairly sure that the US was almost entirly destroyed in WWIII; it would be the main target after all. In fact, I've always had a theory that the reason that the Australians were the last to join the UE govt was that Australia was the most powerful nation left relatively intact after WWIII (After all, would you bother nuking it? ).
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quote:I've always had a theory that the reason that the Australians were the last to join the UE govt was that Australia was the most powerful nation left relatively intact after WWIII
That was just hypothetical, wasn't it?
I think Beverly said something like
quote:Think about Earth -- what if one of the old nation-states, say Australia, had decided not to join the World Government in 2150? Would that have disqualified us from being a Federation member?
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Yes, they are mostly American, but not all are. Notably, Picard says "loo-tenant" in an English accent (although he is supposedly French (perhaps he went to a boarding school in England)), which suggests that American pronunciation is universal.
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Well, yes, but wasn't there something about Austrailia being the last nation state or something? I'm sure it's in the Chronology (I know, I know...).
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And what source does the Chronology state for this information?
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If America was destroyed in WWIII, it would seem a little odd for it to be (seemingly) the dominant country in Enterprise. And as to the subject of nations still around, we know that Britain is at least at the time of Enterprise, due to the Royal Navy references (unless Britain conquered lots of other countries and made itself an enormous Empire again (an idea I am not altogether opposed to ))
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For the record, the Chronology states nothing about Australia being the last nation-state, it simply says that it joined a world government in 2150. However, it does speculate in the commentary section that the country may have been a holdout, since a world government was suggested to have been established as early as 2113 in First Contact. (50 years after Cochrane's first warp flight.)
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That's it! Sorry, this was another instance of me half remembering something I read ages ago and couldn't be arsed to check . basically it is all total speculation based upon, well, more speculation. I was half inclined at one point to write a history of WWIII so I thought of quite a bit to do with it.
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