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Well there's usually a button on the DVD control panel window or else just use the print screen button.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: Who knows, maybe Okuda actually had a display with the Saratoga as NCC-1937 in TVH? That could be where the Copernicus NCC-623 comes from too... -MM
The Copernicus was there, with the proper NCC-623. When Kirk's gang is going to visit their new vessel, the first interior shot of spacedock shows an Oberth hanging on the left side of the screen. You can't see it the normal version, but thanks to a movie night at my local cinema some months ago, I have seen the ship. Trust me, it is there.
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I *know* the Oberth-class ship was there, but it wasn't (in all likelyhood) labeled as Copernicus NCC-623, because when the model appeared on TNG it was still labeled as the Grissom from STIII.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: I *know* the Oberth-class ship was there, but it wasn't (in all likelyhood) labeled as Copernicus NCC-623, because when the model appeared on TNG it was still labeled as the Grissom from STIII.
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But I'm quite sure the ship had the 623-regisrty (what was Grissom's? 639?). You were able to see it from below, so the registry on the underside of the saucer was visible. And I think it said 623.
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I'd have to (frighteningly ) agree with Mim on this one. The main purpose of relabeling a model is because the script has a reference to a specific ship's name. In this instance, there was no reference whatsoever to a "U.S.S. Copernicus" in ST:IV. Furthermore, the various models in Spacedock were just "filler" ships; the only vessels of consequence being the Excelsior & the Enterprise-A. So there was no reason for the labelers to go out of their way to relabel a ship that most likely wouldn't be seen clearly anyway.
I'm guessing Okuda just made the ship's name & registry number up for the 'pedia.
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Or alternatively, as I suggested, he may have done an Okudagram with the ship listed. (Seeing how neither the script nor anything else refers to a U.S.S. Copernicus, this might be likely, since he doesn't usually just make ships up. Sure, he might make the registries or classes up, but usually at least the ship *name* comes from the film/ep.) Also, like I said, this could be where the NCC-1937 for the Saratoga comes from...
Alex, are you sure you couldn't just have mistaken 638 for 623?
Any chance of getting a better screencap than this one?
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What exactly are those shuttles flying over in that pic?
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No, I asked what those two shuttles were flying over. It looks like the top of another starship.
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That's not the entire screen. You were able to see the registry, and there's a good chance it was 623 because this was one of the scenes I was waiting for to see if they really did it. I can understand that they don't rename the ships in the far background, but this one was even clearer than the Saratoga, and they renamed her, too. We're not talking about TV, on the big screen you can see far more details.
And the thing they are flying over is a Constitution-nacelle. As I said, there are things missing here (or they are not yet in the area of sight). The nacelle is a strange thing, because in the next scene there's another nacelle visible, obviously attached to another Constitution (you can see the pylon). You could assume it's the same ship, but this time, they are not flying over it but past it. So definitely not the same vessel.
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