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Bear in mind that the makers of the W359 ships were fully aware of the scales of their ships. They put those big bridges on, but then they altered the windows, so there would be fewer decks.
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The Centaur on the other hand, has a large number of windows that appears to be consistant with the number of decks on a properly scaled Excelsior.
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Uh, nope. If we assume that each window row specifies a deck, it would be consistent with a ship about twice the size of the Excelsior! Would such a vessel run from three puny Jem'Hadar attack bugs?
There's no rule that each deck should only have one row of windows, though. It's entirely possible that all the windows of the Centaur are skylights on a single deck. Or sensor ports...
As for the shuttlebay, yes, I can see it - it must be there, or the "pedestal deck" below the bridge wouldn't extend that far forward. But I can't believe it would be a shuttlebay, not when compared with the bridge module next to it. You couldn't squeeze the Defiant shuttlepod through that thing if it were a door! (And that's the shuttlepod of the 68m Defiant!)
Rather, I guess the thing is a deflector. And I also think it's the same thing on the Curry and the Raging Queen, which don't have the big bridge module but otherwise could very well be of smaller-than-Miranda size.
quote:Originally posted by Timo: Uh, nope. If we assume that each window row specifies a deck, it would be consistent with a ship about twice the size of the Excelsior! Would such a vessel run from three puny Jem'Hadar attack bugs?
Well, if they were the same sort of attack bugs that blew up after a few shots from the Defiants phasers (or Martok's BOP), then no. OTOH, if they were the same sort as the three bugs that destroyed the Galaxy-class Oddessey, then maybe.
quote: the Centaur is fairly consistent, and uses major components from only one type of ship -- Excelsior. (Yeah, there's the Miranda roll bar, but that's a fairly simple piece, and could conceivably be a custom part, even if it's shaped very much like the roll bar. The important parts are the saucer and nacelles.)
I don't actually remember what the original model looked like, but are those really Excelsior nacelles? Why are they only glowing around the middle?
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They appear to be made out of the bottom halves of Excelsior nacelles, glued together without the lateral "warp grille" in between. And there is no top piece, so no top "warp grille". In fact, no transparent grille at all.
What the ship has is a painted-on grillework, which must be photomanipulated into glowing (it's bright red paint so replacing the red parts of a shot with a glow should do the trick, although it's probably also fluorescent so one just has to blue-tint and exaggerate the fluorescence).
I trust Mojo's picture is a CGI model, or possibly a heavy manipulation of an originally unlit model photo if he (and Mark?) had access to one. A low-profile bow "deflector"/"shuttlebay" might suggest it's pure CGI, made of Excelsior elements - the thingamabob then probably wouldn't be bent the way it's squeezed on the real model, and wouldn't gain a higher profile.
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Right, the nacelles aren't exactly like the Excelsior's, but they're the same shape and proportion. That's why I figure they're based on the Excelsior design.
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The Centaur also appeared in 'Blaze of Glory', and in that episode it did seem quite a large ship from what I could tell/guess in compaison to the Starbase it was alongside. I'd have to agree with other comments that it's saucer is approximately the same size as an Excelsior's.
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I promised to divulge nothing until the magazine is out. But when it is, I'll let y'all know the lowdown about the model and its history. I will say however that some artistic liscence was taken with what will be seen in the article... You can catch some of it in the picture on this thread if you look closely enough.
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