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Here is a possibility, maybe is Peregrine is less of a specific class designation,and more of manufacturing designation. For example, 7 once called the Maqui raide a liberty class something or other, so you could call it a Liberty class Peregrine. I personally love the idea of having a manufacturer of civilian space craft like the peregrine with hundreds of models of all different sizes and capabilities. The fighter could be a high end model specifically designed at starfleets request, and the raiders were designed for a more function and practical purpose of courier or fast civilian transport. They all have the a similar design, so is it too much of a stretch to contemplate them all being Peregrines? Any Thoughts?
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So "Peregrine" would be similar to "Runabout" or "Dreadnought" - a word whose direct English translation means something but whose usage in naval or Starfleet language is something else altogether? Just like Dreadnought is a big proto-battleship (or in the Trek context a three-nacelled big warship), and Runabout is a speedboat, Peregrine would be a courier?
This might work. But it doesn't sound natural. I mean, there already exists the term "courier" in Starfleet parlance: no competing word is needed to portray the concept. And "Peregrine class modified courier" would be redundant - "courier class modified courier"! Even if we chose other meanings for the term, like Peregrine=fast transport or Peregrine=clipper or Peregrine=cutter or Peregrine=ship-to-be-used-for-rebellions, the expression "Peregrine class courier" would be rather nonsensical.
I'd be happier with the idea that Peregrine is a standard class name just like Constitution or Galaxy or Danube. We already have enough of a headache from the Antares class, another name that gets assigned to multiple designs (heck, including Chakotay's ship!).
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Timo: More of a description for all ships made by the Peregrine bureau, or what ever manufacture produces that type of craft. The idea is that they all are Peregrines by name , but the difference are their models. Given a larger Peregrine, it might become know as a Liberty class Peregrine, so a class name is used instead of a model number. Cessna' I believe produces many different aircraft , but all retain the name Cessna with the only different being a model number. All ships produced by this production organization would be similar enough to be referred to as Peregrines.
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"For example, 7 once called the Maqui raide a liberty class something or other,"
Actually, that was just in a non-canon book...it called Chakotay's ship the Liberty, and Antares-class, which doesn't make sense (especially since the ship was called the "Zola" in an early draft of "Parallax").
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Bonecrusher I was talking about the big one from "Caretaker" which was stemming from the landing comment about the smaller version... but the landing/folding wings thing could apply to both... I was just saying that the "ribs" that are attached to the top end of the wings - closest to the body of the ship look like those corrogated ribs things on the Klingon BOP - seen in ST:III et al.
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Ok, does anybody have a good idea of the raiders general specifications? For example, production base, performance dimensions, mass, armament, etc. Note: the more conservative the better Oh, I am also looking for a master system display, or internal view of the raider. I realize the MSD probably doesn't exist, but I figure I would ask anyway.
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I have size figures for all three offending articles. Will post 'em later.
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Chakotay's ship (before Maquis enhancements): Type: Civilian ship/Courier Dimensions: About 80 meters long Mass: Don't know, and frankly, don't care. Age: At least 40 years old. Armament: - Civilian ship: probably only the wing-tip phasers - Courier: some 4-6 phasers and 4 torpedo launchers
Note: I think this is the Peregrine, because the Peregrine was called a courier. Also this ship can be a very good civilian ship. And Sisko said the Maquis used civilian ships that were refitted with weapons.
Fighter as seen in DS9 battles: Type: Attack Fighter Dimensions: About 30 metres long Age: About the same age as the Courier, given the similaurities in design. Armament: - 1 phaser under the nose - 2 times 3 phaser cannons on the wings (you can see them on the picture, they probably shoot in sequence, not at the same time) - 1 or 2 forward torpedo launchers - maybe a few extra phasers poining in other directions Comments: This ship has probably got close to no internal 'walkable' space. Maybe a small cargo hold, or some sleeping facility, but the rest is most likely used for machines like the power core. Note: These ships have ALWAYS been refered to as Attack Fighters, even by the Cardasians! This and the lack of proper internal cargo space to be called a Courier to me is enough evidents that this is NOT the Peregrine.
Ro's ship seen in the TNG episode 'Preemptive Strike': Variant of the Attack Fighter, because the cockpit is the same size.
Academy Trainer: I think that side view seen in part 1 of this tread is of the Fighter. This is wat the Trainer looks like:
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