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I agree. Especially since the Roosevelt is the only one of the known ships listed. Was this before or after that name was used on Voyager? If it was before, I'd say they just got lucky in picking that name. If it was after, why would they use that name, but not the others, which are easily accessible via the encyclopedia?
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The full list of ships then at Wolf 359 is 1. USS Ahwahnee NCC-71620 2. USS Beagle 3. USS Bellerophon NCC-62048 4. USS Bonestell NCC-31600 5. USS Brahms (probably named after Johannes Brahms, rf. "Requiem for Methuselah") 6. USS Buran NCC-57580 7. USS Chekov NCC-53702 8. USS Cousteau (from Star Trek: Communicator) 9. USS Esteban 10. USS Everest 11. USS Falcon 12. USS Firebrand NCC-68723 13. USS Gage NCC-11672 14. USS Gauss 15. USS Gemini 16. USS Klondike 17. USS Khumba 18. USS Kyushu NCC-65491 19. USS Liberator NCC-67016 20. USS Maxwell (probably named after an earlier Maxwell) 21. USS Marco Polo 22. USS Melbourne NCC-62043 23. USS Nepal 24. USS Neptune 25. USS Peking (why would Starfleet choose the incorrect name for Beijing?) 26. USS Pioneer 27. USS Popovich 28. USS Princeton NCC-58904 29. USS Pueblo (this ship also in "Eye of the Beholder") 30. USS Rixx (probably named after an earlier Rixx) 31. USS Roosevelt NCC-2573 32. USS Saratoga NCC-31911 33. USS Shimoda 34. USS Solaris (wasn't this the name of a Russian film from the early 1970's) 35. USS Tokyo 36. USS Tolstoy NCC-62095 37. USS Vandenburg 38. USS Vega 39. USS Volga 40. USS Watley 41. USS Yamaguchi NCC-26510
I discount the USS Endeavor NCC-71805 for there is no evidence from "Scorpion, Part 1" that the ship fought the Borg at Wolf 359. According to "The Drumhead", there were 39 ships lost in the battle. One or two ships survived the battle and picked up survivors.
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And that list has a total of fifteen ships that we actually have any reason to believe were really there.
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But Starship Creator gives cannon ships, new ships and registries to known ships, eg NCC-61901 for the U.S.S. Saber. Referring to this game, the Excelsior-Class Livingston was also destroyed at Wolf 359
Conclusion: the information from this Game are cannon??
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Solaris is actually a famous science fiction novel.
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The author of Solaris is Stanislaw Lem. It was written in 1961. I read it quite a while ago, but as I seem to recall, it was about a planet that was sentient.
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Which was turned into Solaris the lunchbox, Solaris the talking doll, Solaris the flamethrower (the kids love this one...) :-)
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As for your list, I see many are names from the Trek encyclopedia. And the Volga? That was/is a runabout assigned to DS9. The Roosevelt may have been also from the encyclopedia.
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Well, the Roosevelt is in the encyclopedia, yes, but that's because it was in a VOY ep. As for the Volga, there's no reason there couldn't have been on at W359. Ship names do get reused, y'know...
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Here are my thoughts about the ships from the World Tour (I didn't see them when I was there):
U.S.S. Roosevelt - The WT was after the epsiode "Unity" was aired, so the canon ship made it to the list. U.S.S. Klondike U.S.S. Volga - two rivers: Danube class? U.S.S. Watley - Isn't that Bashir's great-grandmother? U.S.S. Maxwell - This could be rather the famous scientist than the captain. U.S.S. Gauss - another scientist - Oberth class? U.S.S. Peking - I don't like it, but since the whole world speaks English, SF is likely to use the more common and easier spelling. Just like USS Danube which should habe been named either "Donau" or "Dunav" or "Dunava" in indigenous languages. U.S.S. Shimoda - Jim Shimoda played the assistant to the chief engineer in "The Naked Now".
Summarizing, the names would make sense, if they were canon, but they are not.
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